Ukraine is just the beginning. The peace deal being negotiated includes NATO withdrawing to 1990 borders.
"Withdrawing" to 1990 borders? You mean expelling the states that joined after 1990? I'm not sure that would go over well with the Baltics, Romania, Sweden and Finland. Withdrawal from NATO is voluntary and cannot be compelled.
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I have trouble following the logic here. Putin has not been able to conquer the whole of Ukraine after 3 years, but somehow, suddenly, he will be able to conquer all of the Baltic states without breaking a sweat? So which is it? Is the Russian army fighting with shovels or are they a ferocious horde that is unstoppable? Those two things cannot be true at the same time. I am getting tired of people parroting this narr…
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Well there's not much conspiracy theorizing. Politico article: >The top level of the Soviet diplomatic service arranged his 1987 Moscow visit. With assistance from the KGB. It took place while Kryuchkov was seeking to improve the KGB's operational techniques in one particular and sensitive area. The spy chief wanted KGB staff abroad to recruit more Americans... https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/19/trump…
Why would the CIA let him become president if they actually had something on him? Why would they let Gabbard (also called a "Russian asset") become DNI if they had something on her?
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#494I know very well it's a drop in the ocean, you can donate to ukraine here https://u24.gov.ua/ You can decide how to allocate your donation, defense, demining, humanitarian aid (...)
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Everyone's about to get nukes now. What could go wrong.
Disagree with the implication here and expect the opposite. Ukraine peace (even an imperfect one) allows the US and Russia to work together to prevent Iran from getting a nuke. Ukraine won't get nukes in either scenario. An ongoing war forces Russia to rely on Iran, limiting its ability to work with US (and China), on isolating its nuclear program. DPRK nukes already exist and ROK is pressuring the US for permission…
Now Ukraine, which gave up its warheads, is seeing the same thing.
And even Canadians are starting to discuss a nuclear guarantee.
Yes, we are going to see more nuclear states. It may not happen overnight but the status quo won't hold either.
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Amazing to see Russia win the Cold War—one we didn’t even know we were in. Their propaganda network is so strong that it took 3 weeks to go from “Russia is the enemy” to “eh, we have other problems” amongst the folks who…subscribe accordingly. Absolute masterclass in projecting power in the digital age.
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#497It’s appalling to see so many comments here defending what’s going on. I’m trying to take it in good faith and accept these people actually think this instead of being paid to spread Russian disinformation. So, for those that are in good faith, as an European, I’ll explain mine (and my close circle) position: It’s true that the USA doesn’t have any obligation of helping Ukraine and should be up to us, Europeans, to s…
Do you remember what happened when Russia tried to install missiles in Cuba? The USA put its foot down and was willing to have a nuclear war. Same thing is happening in Russia, making Ukraine part of NATO is just too close. Why is it so hard for people to understand this?
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This makes no sense. Zelenskyy should just have said "If Russia won't break any treaty, you shouldn't have a problem providing a backstop" Trump just wants to rape Ukraine while he can. It's nothing to do with peace. If he was serious he could offer a backstop and get peace over night.
> It's nothing to do with peace. OP never said it was about peace but about Trump winning the Nobel Peace Prize. > Trump just wants to rape Ukraine while he can. He wants to do this and get the Nobel Peace Prize for it. Does that really seem an implausible goal with this guy?
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#499Richard Nixon on Soviet Union “We must be ever watchful when dealing with regimes whose actions have often betrayed their promises.” Ronald Reagan “I call the Soviet Union an evil empire.” George H. W. Bush on Russia “The history of deception and coercion reminds us that trust is never given lightly—it must be earned and continuously verified.” George W. Bush “We call on Moscow to immediately cease its aggressive act…
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> There is absolutely no requirement that the US has to get involved in every regional conflict in the world It is not a requirement, it's the implementation. There is a good reason why the USA was called "world policeman".
>There is a good reason why the USA was called "world policeman". And Europeans and leftist shit talked the US for it for decades. They called for the US to close military bases around the world, shit talked the amount the US spends on defense, etc. Now that the US is packing up and going home, the same people are screaming for the US to stay and continue being the exact thing they shit talked the US for. What a spec…