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Damage done, mission accomplished... If you do something illegal and can get away with it relatively unscathed, then it isn't in practice illegal.
How do you know you've gotten away with it? That takes the rest of your life. (Well, statute of limitations.)
It's too early to tell, but I would not be surprised if later at least a portion of this is found to be "malicious compliance". For example, President Truman ordered the US military to be (re)integrated. Through malicious compliance, racist officers put their own spin on the orders. "Well, he didn't say that black officers would get equal access to the officers club, so we won't let them in." It too a former 5 star g…
What? This isn't malicious compliance. This is exactly what Republicans said they were going to do. Destroy everything that doesn't agree with them.
You can read the EO here: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defe...
Beyond a few specific documents, nothing in there requires the CDC to pull down all this data immediately. There is even a section about "progress updates by 120 days".
The CDC is still run by the same people as under Biden. They are the ones that immediately pulled down the data, not Trump hires.
This is a blitzkrieg campaign designed to try and get Musk and his people as much control of the digital government as possible before the roadblocks (legal, systematic, etc.) make things too difficult for him. As it stands, his goal is likely a purge of the federal government akin to what he did with Twitter. And the resulting 80% drop in revenue by Twitter is a similar kind of outcome we can expect from his careles…
> Elon Musk staff has been caught installing hard drives inside the Office of Personnel Management (OPM), the Treasury Department, and the General Services Administration (GSA). His staff encountered resistance when demanding that Treasury officials grant access to systems managing the flow of more than $6 trillion annually to programs like Social Security and Medicare. Tensions escalated when Musk’s aides were discovered at OPM accessing systems, including a vast database known as the Enterprise Human Resources Integration (EHRI), which contains sensitive information such as dates of birth, Social Security numbers, performance appraisals, home addresses, pay grades, and length of service for government employees. In response to employees speaking out, Musk’s aides locked civil servants out of computer systems and offices, with reports of personal items being searched.
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The CDC page on PrEP, a life-saving medicine to protect against HIV, has been removed. This will result in people dying. https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/prevention/prep.html
Isn't this a worthwhile kick in the pants? No one who actually relies upon real raw data is just downloading a live snapshot from official government hosting on demand are they? Proper data handling procedures is streaming updates, doing your own backups and archiving and sharing where possible and important. Not trusting the everlasting benevolence of whiplash politically controlled resources?
Maybe useful to someone: https://archive.org/details/20250128-cdc-datasets """ An archive of all CDC datasets uploaded to https://data.cdc.gov/browse before January 28th, 2025. Excludes corrupt datasets and data not publicly accessible. Most datasets are accompanied by an additional file ending in -meta that includes the metadata associated with the data. Attachments referenced in these files can be found in the atta…
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Who cares about the NFL? The issue here is that, and mark my words this almost this exact conversation will play out in the very near future: Scientists: X number of people died of Covid in the US according to CDC data. US Government: you can't prove that number. That data doesn't exist on government servers, the data in the copies is fake and can't be trusted.
> Who cares about the NFL? It's a simple example, that's why it's relevant. All the facts are available for anyone to see, to process, to analyze. There is no disputed or hidden data. And yet nobody, including any AI, can produce a "true" answer to the question, because it's reliant on one's personal biases. Even with Covid, did a 92-year old die because of Covid, or because of a multitude of existing conditions that…
If the question was who scored the most points in the year, that can be answered factually by data.
If the NFL was deleting all their data at the end of the season with the goal of creating arguments and sowing disinformation, that would be a more relevant example.
Wait a second. The EO in question doesn't require that all mentions of more than two genders be taken down (beyond a few specific policies). The CDC immediately pulls down data that went beyond the requirements of the EO . And now Democrats are saying "this is so scary, data is disappearing!!" But it was Democrats that took the data down without being required to do so?
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Who cares about the NFL? The issue here is that, and mark my words this almost this exact conversation will play out in the very near future: Scientists: X number of people died of Covid in the US according to CDC data. US Government: you can't prove that number. That data doesn't exist on government servers, the data in the copies is fake and can't be trusted.
You are proving my point. The CDC has faced several instances where its data was inaccurate or misrepresented: - COVID-19 Death Overcount: In 2022, a coding error led the CDC to overcount 72,277 COVID-19 deaths across 26 states. Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/24/cdc-coding-err... - Maternal Mortality Data: Changes in death certificate reporting, particularly the addition of a pregnancy checkbox, r…
Wait a second. The EO in question doesn't require that all mentions of more than two genders be taken down (beyond a few specific policies). The CDC immediately pulls down data that went beyond the requirements of the EO . And now Democrats are saying "this is so scary, data is disappearing!!" But it was Democrats that took the data down without being required to do so?
You're assuming the CDC is democrats? You don't think maybe the CDC staff were just rushed and scared by a rampaging executive?
Sure, they might be "scared", but being scared isn't an excuse for going overboard and doing things that aren't required.
They could have just left the data up and complied with the EO through the Director by saying "we are currently reviewing the data and how to comply with the EO, but will leave the existing data up until such time it can be replaced with the updated data".
But they score way more political points by yanking it all down and getting the media to fan the flames.