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Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by modeless » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 4:20 PM UTC

jimbohn wrote: post #485

We got a switch a few years ago and it collected dust. The shop is overpriced (and slow) and I guess we aren't really into their first-party titles. I don't see what it offers against a steam deck except the aforementioned first-party titles. edit: except the aforementioned first-party titles

It offers the first-party titles, basically. If you don't want those then there's no reason to get one.

For me, Nintendo is the most reliable game developer these days. Every main Mario and Zelda game offers something new and executes it well on the first try. I'll buy Switch 2 for Mario and Zelda alone.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by spencerflem » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 4:20 PM UTC

lenerdenator wrote: post #474

spencerflem wrote: post #344

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Sadly, I don't think games will ever be FLOSS until we figure out how to get people to pay for FLOSS software.

You could probably get away with a purely volunteer effort on... eh, how to describe this... like Super Mario 64 for Mac/Linux/PC. And I do mean Super Mario 64 with respect to the technology/artwork level. Which is fine by me. But the big AAA games and the multiplayer games that all of the hip young people with their poggers Twitch streaming and their deadass rock music play? Yeah, can't build those given the state o…

Most successful games, AAA or indie, are the result of years of full time work, most of which is making the content. I just don't see that being possible in general, without being independently wealthy.

Games also benefit from a single vision in general, which is hard to square with volunteer style development.

There are certainly exceptions of games that are built as a community: nethack, space station 13, idk probably a third one. But I just can't see this being commonly done until we figure out how free software devs can eat.

With that said: I love free software and hope this problem is solvable, but unless society changes dramatically we may need to learn to do without not just AAA scope games, but even Stardew Valley scope games

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by xyzzy_plugh » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 4:21 PM UTC

_fat_santa wrote: post #401

duxup wrote: post #8

I was pretty skeptical about the original Switch but bought it on a whim after being laid off. It quickly became one of my favorite gaming consoles. The ability to play anywhere didn’t seem like a big deal until I could do it. I have zero interest in being tied to a single spot like the traditional console experience now.

The Switch was the first device where i saw how well the mobile + docked system worked and it was my favorite device until I got a Steam Deck. The Deck is killer IMO because it takes the same form factor of the Switch, gives you more power and no restrictions on games.

From a usability perspective, the Steam Deck is pretty good but the Switch blows it out of the water. Fast boot times, you don't need to restart it all the time, games don't crash frequently, controllers just work, it just slots into its dock, a much simpler UI, and no need to futz around with Proton.

The Steam Deck is cool but I waste infinitely more time dicking around with it than the Switch, where it just works. The Switch is the best console I've ever owned.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by bobthepanda » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 4:21 PM UTC

koolala wrote: post #429

CitrusFruits wrote: post #372

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People are speculating that you can use the controllers like a computer mouse. You can see an allusion to that towards the end of the video.

That's a really old-school gimmick if so.

Retro things have a habit of coming back. See: polaroids

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by nobleach » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 4:23 PM UTC

bargainbin wrote: post #468

nerdjon wrote: post #109

Happy to see that Nintendo is treating the switch more like how they traditionally handled their mobile platforms instead of their consoles. Iterating instead of throwing out everything with each new version. There is a part of me that is going to miss the, do weird shit and see what works, Nintendo that brought us some really fun ideas. But a stable Nintendo just being able to continue putting out great games has it…

They’ve got the weird shit covered still, apparently the joy cons in this gen can be used as mice. Was heavily rumoured/leaked and this teaser video literally shows them gliding along a surface. How Nintendo will leverage that functionality, who could honestly say, but that’s the genius of keeping a toy company mindset in an industry full of sports car company mindsets.

Never forget, they had Rob the robot. And to my recollection, he only worked with Gyromite.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 4:23 PM UTC

layer8 wrote: post #240

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #57

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Switch 2? Switch to what?

To the Switch 2, obviously.

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Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by VyseofArcadia » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 4:24 PM UTC

bayindirh wrote: post #149

VyseofArcadia wrote: post #127

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I prefer just "playful" to "mature but still playful". Something about the straightforwardness of "this is a toy for people of all ages, but it is still a toy" speaks to me.

Your taste/view is as valid and correct as mine. If these things could be standardized, we would have only one design for every category of item, possibly from different brands. Since it can't, we have this thing called design and art, which is a good thing :)

Absolutely! I was just elaborating on my tastes, didn't mean to come across as disparaging yours.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by VyseofArcadia » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 4:26 PM UTC

jncfhnb wrote: post #361

VyseofArcadia wrote: post #116

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Yeah, I am not a big fan of the Switch UI. They really took out the "surprise and delight" compared to the Wii U and 3DS. Very bland and straightforward, and yet somehow awfully slow and laggy.

I disagree. I find it delightful. The sounds are awesome.

The sound design is in fact delightful. Nintendo is great at sound design.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by SecretDreams » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 4:27 PM UTC

joshstrange wrote: post #439

irrational wrote: post #435

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Isn't the point of owning a switch to play games that aren't on the Steam Deck? Zelda, Mario, etc.?

With emulators those games can also be played on the Steam Deck.

Which is also a gray area. I personally am fine with it for older, depreciated consoles. But I won't emulate current gen games unless I'm also buying the game.. especially on the Nintendo platform where the games still have some "magic" to them, compared to the more generic games on other platforms that prioritize graphics over seemingly all other attributes.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by criddell » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 4:27 PM UTC

I hope I'll be able to pre-order one. I don't even care if they ship it right away. Promise me one within the first 2 or 3 years and I would be happy.

I know I'm going to want one and I know they are going to be snapped up by scalpers and be hard to buy at first. Fine. I just don't want to go through the stupid check Amazon, then GameStop, then BestBuy, then Walmart dance. Just let me order one and then not worry about it.