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A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

#491
My $0 version:

https://object.ceph-eu.hswaw.net/q3k-personal/5143b5491fca11...

Usually wrapped in electrician's tape.

1. NRF52 board from some scrap given by a friend, running forked/ported OpenHaystack firmware

2. AA battery holder from junk box

3. AA batteries from junk drawer

If my math is correct, this should last until AA self-discharge, ie. around 10 years. Yes, it works with Apple's FindMy network. Yes, I've flown with it.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

#492

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IDK where you live but where I am, unless it's an actively life threatening emergency, the Police will say they're busy. I watched a drunk driver try to drive away after smashing into a parked car, ripping a wheel off the parked car. The drunk driver kept trying to start his car to get away. People called the police but they said they're busy. Fortunately his car was totaled and wouldn't start either. Over an hour la…

> IDK where you live but where I am, unless it's an actively life threatening emergency, the Police will say they're busy. Where I live the basic law/constitution establishes a protection duty of its citizens by the state (this includes their property). The police is one of the ways the state takes care of this duty. If the state is grossly negligent in this or even does nothing at all, the state may very well be on…

In the US, it’s been established by the Supreme Court that the police have no duty to protect anyone. They can it they want to, and individual departments can make it a policy and fire officers who fail at it, but it’s not a fundamental requirement.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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The lithium AA/AAA/CR batteries don't seem to leak. They're not widely available though. I use them for devices which mostly sit in a drawer and their lifetime can reach 5-6 years.

They fall from the sky. I don't buy them, I just hit up sondehub and see where there's a barely-used pair waiting for me to go clean up some litter.

What do you mean, what is sondehub?

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Not everywhere. In Sweden that would be a crime (a little bit depending on what you mean left in the open).

What kind of anarcho-tyranny is that?

It makes sense to me... mostly. The person currently in possession might have purchased it from the thief so taking it from them leaves them in a hole, not the thief.

More broadly I think it does make a certain sort of sense that a theft should be resolved by the police. Find your item and want it back? Get the police involved. It's just that these days we're all so used the police being completely ineffectual that taking matters into your own hands is the only "sensible" solution.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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post #438

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What kind of anarcho-tyranny is that?

European countries sometimes have a rather repulsive legal system that provides far too much protection to perpetrators.

Protection from what? No actions are taken against perpetrators' interests.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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You could try to get the police to do it, but that's going to take more time, during which the thief is even more likely to ditch the AirTag. During the most recent American election I saw at least three news stories on television about campaign sign thieves being tracked down through the use of AirTags put in one of the signs. To my surprise, in each case the police were right there, and in two of the cases, the sig…

Aren't the news stories subject to survivorship bias though? They wouldn't be as likely to report a boring "sign stolen, thief unknown" story.

Aren't the news stories subject to survivorship bias though? They wouldn't be as likely to report a boring "sign stolen, thief unknown" story.

Not really. "Survivorship bias" is just the HN cliché of the quarter, and doesn't apply in nearly as many situations as posters on this forum would like.

There were plenty of other stories of campaign signs being stolen, both in the most recent election, and in previous ones. I'd call it more "perception bias." You only know about the AirTag campaign signs stories because you're viewing it through the lens of HN, and not a broader view of media coverage of the issue.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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What kind of anarcho-tyranny is that?

The logic is that the current possessor might have acquired the product bona fide and is not necessarily the thief. In order to assess this, you cannot repurpose the product yourself, but need the cops and court involved. It's the oppossite of anarcho-tyranny, it's a law favoring orderly and non-violent solutions of real world capitalist conundrums. Private repossession of stolen property in a 'bear arms' society...…

>acquired the product bona fide

Does not change anything. I mean poor guy, became a victim of a fraudster, but what does my bike have to do with it?

>you cannot repurpose the product yourself

This is not repurposing, this is its prevention.

>solutions of real world capitalist conundrums

There is no conundrums, it is pure tyranny.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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post #491

My $0 version: https://object.ceph-eu.hswaw.net/q3k-personal/5143b5491fca11... Usually wrapped in electrician's tape. 1. NRF52 board from some scrap given by a friend, running forked/ported OpenHaystack firmware 2. AA battery holder from junk box 3. AA batteries from junk drawer If my math is correct, this should last until AA self-discharge, ie. around 10 years. Yes, it works with Apple's FindMy network. Yes, I've f…

I guess anything could be a $0 version if you just happen to have all the parts already.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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I'm curious too. I found a lot of skepticism of a similar claim. https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/47754/are-one-t...

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I'm sure this attitude has absolutely nothing to do with how poorly these interactions go. There is a certain irony in your generalizations...

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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That is probably mostly a common law thing, and as the article notes > however, in many cases, more than one innocent party is involved, making judgment difficult for courts and leading to numerous exceptions to the general rule that aim to give a degree of protection to bona fide purchasers and original owners > The person buying the stolen goods would need to file a claim against the thief to recover their money Ge…

> in many cases, more than one innocent party is involved, making judgment difficult for courts and leading to numerous exceptions to the general rule that aim to give a degree of protection to bona fide purchasers and original owners The next sentence is: > The possession of the good of title will be with the original owner. So you seem to be wrong there. The innocent buyer needs to file a claim against the thief, t…

No, I know our legal system quite well. You are wrong.

The reason for this is so that if you buy a bicycle at, say, a bicycle fair and for a reasonable price, you shouldn’t have to worry about it being yoinked from under you later on.

Lawmakers have clarified this is choosing between two evils, there is no winning proposition here.

So, in conclusion: the original owner needs to file the claim, not the third party.

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