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Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by kridsdale1 »

icelancer wrote: post #480
modeless wrote: post #383

https://aistudio.google.com/live is by far the coolest thing here. You can just go there and share your screen or camera and have a running live voice conversation with Gemini about anything you're looking at. As much as you want, for free. I just tried having it teach me how to use Blender. It seems like it could actually be super helpful for beginners, as it has decent knowledge of the toolbars and keyboard shortcu…

I tried this, shared a terminal, asked it to talk about it, and it guessed that it was Google Chrome with some webUI stuff. Immediately closed the window and bailed.

Which terminal? Was it chromium based?

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by icelancer »

kridsdale1 wrote: post #491
icelancer wrote: post #480

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I tried this, shared a terminal, asked it to talk about it, and it guessed that it was Google Chrome with some webUI stuff. Immediately closed the window and bailed.

Which terminal? Was it chromium based?

Nope. Just KiTTY on Windows.

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by lovasoa »

zamadatix wrote: post #456
internet_points wrote: post #414

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I got so hopefuly by your comment I showed it my current bug that I'm working on, I even prepared everything first with my github issue, the relevant code, the terminal with the failing tests, and I pasted it the full contents of the file and explained carefully what I wanted to achieve. As I was doing this, it repeated back to me everything I said, saying things like "if I understand correctly you're showing me a fi…

> foo dot see see pee Well there's your problem!

ccp is the Chinese version of c++. Or maybe they meant ссср, the Soviet version.

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by sky2224 »

mycall wrote: post #459
sky2224 wrote: post #397

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THIS is the thing I'm excited for with AI. I'm someone that becomes about 5x more productive when I have a person watching or just checking in on me (even if they're just hovering there). Having AI to basically be that "parent" to kick me into gear would be so helpful. 90% of the time my problems are because I need someone to help keep the gears turning for me, but there isn't always someone available. This has the p…

Your "parent" kicked you into gear because you have an emotional bond with them. A stranger might cause your guards to go up if you do not respect them as with wisdom. So too may go an AI.

I used the term "parent" here because it was the descriptor I thought people would understand best.

For me personally, I was awful at working when my parents were hovering over me.

In the past, I used to work with a professor on a project and we'd spend significant amounts of time on zoom calls working (this was during COVID). The professor wouldn't even be helping me the entire time, but as soon as I was blocked, I'd start talking and the ideas would bounce back and forth and I'd find a solution significantly quicker.

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by sky2224 »

Jeff_Brown wrote: post #486
sky2224 wrote: post #397

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THIS is the thing I'm excited for with AI. I'm someone that becomes about 5x more productive when I have a person watching or just checking in on me (even if they're just hovering there). Having AI to basically be that "parent" to kick me into gear would be so helpful. 90% of the time my problems are because I need someone to help keep the gears turning for me, but there isn't always someone available. This has the p…

I'm intrigued to know whether that actually ends up working. I am something like that myself, but I don't know whether it is an effect of getting feedback or of having a person behind the feedback.

There's definitely an ideal setup that's needed in order for it to work. I'm also not quite sure what part of the other person being present causes me to focus better (i.e., whether it's the presence vs good ideas and feedback).

I'm leaning toward saying that the main issue for me is that I need to keep my focus on things that are active engagement rather than more passive engagement like taking notes versus just reading a passage.

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by jcims »

CSMastermind wrote: post #170

> We're also launching a new feature called Deep Research, which uses advanced reasoning and long context capabilities to act as a research assistant, exploring complex topics and compiling reports on your behalf. It's available in Gemini Advanced today. Anyone seeing this? I don't have an option in my dropdown.

I just used it (a day later). It's only available on the 1.5 model right now. If anything it found a bunch of cool articles on the subject matter that I could use on my own. The actual results from its research in the domain I was using were much better than the standard chat bot response that 1.5 or 2.0 gave.

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by justsid »

dwaltrip wrote: post #488
dtquad wrote: post #435

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Even when using the web search tool GPT-4 becomes stupider. Do they use a dumber model for tool/vision?

I’m guessing that it’s just a much harder problem. Images often contain more information but it is far less structured and refined than language. The transformation process that occurs when people speak and write is incredibly rich and complex. Compared to images which are essentially just the outputs of cameras or screen captures — there isn’t an “intelligent” transformation process occurring.

I think images also have much higher information density than words, or at least they can. There is a reason a picture is worth 1000 words.

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by FezzikTheGiant »

RandomThoughts3 wrote: post #199
egeozcan wrote: post #158

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> they also have an incredibly bad track record of supporting their products Incredibly bad track record of supporting products that don't grow . I'm not saying this to defend Google, I'm still (perhaps unreasonably) angry because of Reader, it's just that there is a pattern and AI isn't likely to fit that for a long while.

I’m sad for reader but it was a somewhat niche product. Inbox I can’t forgive. It was insanely good and was killed because it was a threat to Gmail. My main issue with Google is that internal politic affects users all the time. See the debacle of anything built on top of Android and being treated as a second citizen. You can’t trust a company which can’t shield users from its internal politics. It means nothing is al…

would you be willing to pay for something that essentially is google inbox - but a separate web view client with more personalization/better search?

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by 1123581321 »

mklepaczewski wrote: post #443
themaninthedark wrote: post #442

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Do they support WFH setups?

The parent might be referring to us: https://workmode.net/ . Most of our clients work from home. Do you have a specific concern about body doubling and working from home?

Clever service! I assume your employees watch several people at once. Is it engaging enough work for them?

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by UltraSane »

pcwelder wrote: post #267
UltraSane wrote: post #262

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Is there a guide on how to do that?

For building mcp server? The official docs do a great job https://modelcontextprotocol.io/introduction My own mcp server could be an inspiration on Mac. It's based on pexpect to enable repl session and has some tricks to prevent bad commands. https://github.com/rusiaaman/wcgw However, I recommend creating one with your own customised prompts and tools for maximum benefit.

Thanks. I'm a network engineer so I'm going to work on integrating the output of show commands to Claude using MCP.
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