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Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by dexterdog »

moralestapia wrote: post #461
Animats wrote: post #399

Nice hardware. They're down to swim goggle size. Then you see what Facebook wants you to do with it - see screens in front of you all the time. One with Facebook's "Recommended" page, and a video of some talking neckbeard. There's a feeling of "we were promised virtual reality, and all we got was talking heads of influencers." The hardware apparently has GPS, but that's turned off. So, no Pokemon Go yet. Not even Hyp…

Even if it turns out that the only application of this is to show ads (which will not be the case), the hardware alone is a monumental achievement of engineering. I would love to see ads on these, at least once. In contrast, I've never had any interest to even try Apple's VR headset. This is one of the most well-put v1 products ever. Avoid the MKDBHC trap (or however it's spelled). Innovation beats cynicism, every da…

How is this a v1 product when they have oculus?

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by grahamj »

buzzerbetrayed wrote: post #325
Kiro wrote: post #280

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Thick rims like those are considered high fashion right now. It's the opposite of goofy and says a lot about the audience here that you're all oblivious to this fact.

lol. These glasses aren’t “high fashion”. But it’s funny to see you look down your nose at people to try and convince them they are.

I dunno, I think to want to wear these you'd have to be high

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by grahamj »

kentm wrote: post #435
impulser_ wrote: post #367

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I'm not comparing actual devices. I'm comparing how large they were when they were first released. The original iPod and iPhones were bricks compared to what the latest/last versions and it didn't have a touch screen and cameras. The point is, the size of new technology tend to shrink fast.

You are incorrect about the original iPhone. It was marginally thicker but it had smaller width and height than current iPhones.

yeah and the 16 Pros got even bigger this year!

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Post by bozhark »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #431
Animats wrote: post #399

Nice hardware. They're down to swim goggle size. Then you see what Facebook wants you to do with it - see screens in front of you all the time. One with Facebook's "Recommended" page, and a video of some talking neckbeard. There's a feeling of "we were promised virtual reality, and all we got was talking heads of influencers." The hardware apparently has GPS, but that's turned off. So, no Pokemon Go yet. Not even Hyp…

Further evidence to the truth of this: The best minds of my generation are thinking about how to make people click ads. –Jeff Hammerbacher Oh lament! for what, not just the future, but the present, could have been. Edited to add: But! Even as I have just written that and stand by it, I just don't know if humanity could have done it any other way. One must sell their soul to 'the green', even just a little, to have th…

If they were the “brightest minds” and they applied their abilities towards advertisement, then they were not the brightest minds.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by bozhark »

dexterdog wrote: post #491
moralestapia wrote: post #461

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if it turns out that the only application of this is to show ads (which will not be the case), the hardware alone is a monumental achievement of engineering. I would love to see ads on these, at least once. In contrast, I've never had any interest to even try Apple's VR headset. This is one of the most well-put v1 products ever. Avoid the MKDBHC trap (or however it's spelled). Innovation beats cynicism, every da…

How is this a v1 product when they have oculus?

VR vs AR

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by moralestapia »

gorjusborg wrote: post #488
moralestapia wrote: post #465

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>no guarantees anywhere in plain sight on privacy Elaborate. Do you mean this with regards to the data that users will generate when using the device? Or the privacy of the people around the wearer?

I could not care less about the the privacy of the weirdos who will try to wear these in public. I care deeply about the further normalization of surveillance capitalism. I try hard to be kind, but I will have very little patience for any individual who wears always-on cameras that infringe on my privacy. I don't use social media for a reason. Meta just wants to sell surveillance devices so they can collect more data…

>the people around the wearer

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by dcchambers »

mgh2 wrote: post #301
dcchambers wrote: post #18

Still kinda dorky looking but 10x better than what Snap unveiled last week.[^1] Software looks miles ahead of the AR glasses competition as well. Nice job FB engineers...keep cooking! [^1]: https://www.spectacles.com/

Still looks ugly. The Ray Band was a success due to the aesthetic appeal of sunglass users (aviators, beach jocks look cool). Pushing normal glasses without making the subject look like dorks (nerds are unattractive) or "glassholes" (Google glass tech bros) will be a challenge.

I think it's clear that the end design goal IS Ray-Ban form factor. The tech just isn't there yet, but they sure are getting close.

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Post by grahamj »

zmmmmm wrote: post #450
auggierose wrote: post #361

> We don’t think people should have to make the choice between a world of information at your fingertips and being present in the physical world around you. What a weird mission statement.

They are definitely walking a fine line to portraying a dystopia. I wonder how aware of that they are internally.

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Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by moralestapia »

dexterdog wrote: post #491
moralestapia wrote: post #461

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if it turns out that the only application of this is to show ads (which will not be the case), the hardware alone is a monumental achievement of engineering. I would love to see ads on these, at least once. In contrast, I've never had any interest to even try Apple's VR headset. This is one of the most well-put v1 products ever. Avoid the MKDBHC trap (or however it's spelled). Innovation beats cynicism, every da…

How is this a v1 product when they have oculus?

If you watch Zuck's product reveal video, he explains how it's almost a completely different tech-tree.

There's a reason why there's no other similar device on the market right now (i.e. same capabilities).

Also, the interaction through the arm muscles is just awesome (two v1s for the price of one :D). I've been waiting for that kind of UI for decades.

Google actually had it developed about 10 years ago as one of their moonshot projects; but they also had Pichai already, who is dumb as a rock. I could believe he's secretly on the payroll of many competing companies, lol.

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