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Instead of taking 15 years to drop the "don't be evil" act like Google, the new AI companies did it in two! e/acc, baby!
what does e/acc mean?
Sheldon Cooper can afford a nicer apartment.
Leaked OpenAI documents reveal aggressive tactics toward former employees
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I’ve seen that for a well-known large tech company, and I wasn’t even employed in the US, making those seem stranger. Friends and former colleagues pushed back against that (very publicly and for obvious reasons in one case) and didn’t get to keep their vested options: they had to exercise what they had before leaving. There was one thing that I cared about (anti-competitive behavior, things could technically be ille…
A 90 days exercise window is standard (and there are tax implications as well in play). OpenAI is different: they don’t grant options, but “Units” that are more like RSUs.
Don’t those come with bad tax implications then? The point of options is to give ownership without immediate financial burden for the employee.
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Damn, is this Sammy's Sock or do you just have elementary level reading comprehension?
The latter, apparently. TBH I answered after hearing about the story elsewhere and it just struck me as fairly benign for an employer to ask as much from a (soon-to-be) former employee. I am not a lawyer anyway so I honestly have no idea what the proper legal interpretation might be. I was just commenting on what seems to be the unfortunate state of human affairs these days. It just feels like people are so much more…
I see why you'd assume, I deal with annoying young people who bitch about working 4 hours a day, annoying I know. There's still no excuse for being almost the same type of annoying. Get good. Idgaf if you're not a lwayer I just have greater than 5th grade reading level. You clearly displayed an annoying level of person. The type of annoying that encourages the type of genocides I sympathize with. The aware but dumb. Read.
If you're autistic, have an extra chromosome, or will admit they are genuinely dumb. I'll apologize. But otherwise, nah.
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#494Looking forward for a document leak about openai using YouTube data for training their models. When asked if they use it, Murali (CTO) told she doesn't know which makes you believe that for 99% they are using it.
To be fair I don’t think Google deserves exclusive rights to contents created by others, just because they own a monopolistic video platform. However I do think it should be the content owner’s right to decide if anyone, including Google, gets to use their content for AI.
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Wells Fargo clawed back from the CEO (and a couple others if I remember) over the fake account scandals.
Right, but would that have been achieved with a clause open-ended enough to allow this additional paperwork on exit? Or would that have been an "if you break the law" thing? Seems unlikely that OpenAI are legally in the clear here with nice clear precedent. Why? Because they are backflipping to deny it's something they'd ever do.
I think they are backpedaling rapidly to avoid major discontent among their workers. By the definition of their stock as laid out in their articles of incorporation, they have the right to reduce any former employee's stock to 0, or to prevent them from ever selling it, which is basically the same thing. This makes their stock offers to employees much less valuable than the appear at face value, so their current and future employees may very well start demanding actual dollars instead.
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I always respond with "if it's never enforced, then you'll be fine with me taking it out" Then I strike the offending passage out on both copies of the contract, sign and hand it back to them. Your move. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Do you really do this, and is striking out a line of a contract binding?
(EU perspective) it is binding.
you just add both parties' initials/signature on the margin of each line that was changed.
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#497I wonder if this HN post will get torpedoed as fast as the one from yesterday[0]. 0. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40435440
And today: a post about Johansson's voice was on the front page with quite a high score, and then disappeared. This is not the place to discuss OpenAI.
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#498It's funny how finding out about corporate misdoing has almost a common ritual attached to it. First shock and dismay is expressed to the findings, then the company leadership has to say it was a mistake (rather than an obvious strategy they literally signed off on), we then bring up the contradiction. Does this display of ignorance from every side really need to take place? Why bother asking for an explanation, they obviously did the thing they obviously did and will obviously do as much as possible to keep doing as much of things like that they can get away with.
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#499It's okay everyone. Silicon Valley will save us. Pay no mind to the "mistakes" they've made over the last 60 years.
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#500I feel there is a smear campaign going on to tarnish OpenAI