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Re: GPT-4o

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Post by luminen »

Hugsun wrote: post #298

Very interesting and extremely impressive! I tried using the voice chat in their app previously and was disappointed. The big UX problem was that it didn't try to understand when I had finished speaking. English is a second language and I paused a bit too long thinking of a word and it just started responding to my obviously half spoken sentence. Trying again it just became stressful as I had to rush my words out to…

"I paused a bit too long thinking of a word and it just started responding to my obviously half spoken sentence. Trying again it just became stressful as I had to rush my words out to avoid an annoying response to an unfinished thought."

I'm a native speaker and this was my experience as well. I had better luck manually sending the message with the "push to hold" button.

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Post by selfmodruntime »

gdb wrote: post #43
Jensson wrote: post #24

The most impressive part is that the voice uses the right feelings and tonal language during the presentation. I'm not sure how much of that was that they had tested this over and over, but it is really hard to get that right so if they didn't fake it in some way I'd say that is revolutionary.

(I work at OpenAI.) It's really how it works.

I've always been wondering what GPT models lack that makes them "query->response" only. I've always tried to get chatbots to lose the initially needed query, with no avail. What would It take to get a GPT model to freely generate tokens in a thought like pattern? I think when I'm alone without query from another human. Why can't they?

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Post by system2 »

Realtime videos? Probably their internal tools. I am testing the gpt4o right now and the responses come in 6-10 seconds. Same experience as the gpt4 text. What's up with the realtime claims?!

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Post by _xerces_ »

yeknoda wrote: post #473

feature request: please let me change the voice. it is slightly annoying right now. way too bubbly, and half the spoken information is redundant or not useful. too much small talk and pleasantries or repetition. I'm looking for an efficient, clever, servant not a "friend" who speaks to me like I'm a toddler. felt like I was talking to a stereotypical American with a Frappuccino: "HIIIII!!! EVERYTHING'S AMAZING! YOU'R…

You can already change the voice in ChatGPT (in the paid tier at least) to one of 5 or 6 different 'people' so I imagine you can change it in the new version too.

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Post by cal85 »

We've had voice input and voice output with computers for a long time, but it's never felt like spoken conversation. At best it's a series of separate voice notes. It feels more like texting than talking.

These demos show people talking to artificial intelligence. This is new. Humans are more partial to talking than writing. When people talk to each other (in person or over low-latency audio) there's a rich metadata channel of tone and timing, subtext, inexplicit knowledge. These videos seem to show the AI using this kind of metadata, in both input and output, and the conversation even flows reasonably well at times. I think this changes things a lot.

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Post by selfmodruntime »

MattPalmer1086 wrote: post #262
Negitivefrags wrote: post #150

I found these videos quite hard to watch. There is a level of cringe that I found a bit unpleasant. It’s like some kind of uncanny valley of human interaction that I don’t get on nearly the same level with the text version.

I had the same reaction. While incredibly impressive, it wasn't something I would want to interact with.

Yes. This model - and past models to an extent - have a very unique american and californian feel to them in their response. I am German for example, and day to that conversations lack any superficial flattery so much that the demo feels extreme to me.

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Post by robryan »

AndreMitri wrote: post #437

The ammount of "startups" creating wrappers around it and calling it a product is going to be a nightmare. But other than that, it's an amazing announcement and I look foward to using it!

I was just hearing about startups doing speech to text/ text to speech to feed into llms. Might be a bad time for them.

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Post by beepbooptheory »

mindcandy wrote: post #360

Ohhhhhhhh, boy... Listening to all that emotional vocal inflection and feedback... There are going to be at least 10 million lonely guys with new AI girlfriends. "She's not real. But, she interested in everything I say and excited about everything I care about" is enough of a sales pitch for a lot of people.

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Post by thrance »

freediver wrote: post #394

Impressed by the model so far. As far as independent testing goes, it is topping our leaderboard for chess puzzle solving by a wide margin now: https://github.com/kagisearch/llm-chess-puzzles?tab=readme-o...

Nice project! Are you aware of the following investigations: https://blog.mathieuacher.com/GPTsChessEloRatingLegalMoves/

Some have been able to achieve greater elo with a different prompt based on the pgn format.

gpt-3.5-turbo-instruct was able to reach an elo of ~1750.

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