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Re: Meta Horizon OS

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Meta has a lot of work to do on DevEx for non-gaming experiences. Say what you want with the Vision Pro, but it comes with a lot of niceities like SwiftUI. When you develop with the Quest, you're stuck with Unity or Unreal Engine -- it's almost too much freedom to develop simple productivity apps.

You can also use Godot (although def has the too much freedom issue) and a-frame as well. The latter might be more attractive to webdevs

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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I've got to hand it to Zuckerberg : when he spouted the "open" vs "closed" rhetoric earlier in the year, I said it was nice words but meaningless unless he put his money where his mouth was and makes Quest OS available to others as well as put firm guarantees around side loading etc. But in the same breath I said I doubted he would do that. And now he has done exactly that. However much antipathy people have towards him and his past, he keeps putting meat behind his words and actually doing the things he says.

At the same time, important to recognise here that this is still to some extent "open washing" what is a totally controlled OS. This is not like AOSP where you can go download the source code and compile it yourself. So far it is not even like Windows where you can download an installer and run it on a computer yourself. A manufacturer will have to form a business partnership with Meta to even get access to this "open" OS - I assume. But since I keep under estimating Zuckerberg maybe he will exceed my expectations on that front too.

Nonetheless, this is a huge step forward and a genuine challenge now for Google/Samsung. The bar is now very very high for them to deliver something compelling enough that manufacturers will jump on board instead of building on Horizon OS with an existing install base of 25M+ users and thousands of apps.

All up, this is pretty exciting news in the XR space and really sets the stage for an epic battle in the next couple of years as these platforms go head to head.

Re: Meta Horizon OS

#494

That's a bad name collision, "Horizon" is the name of the OS on the Nintendo 3ds and switch.

There's precedent, when Apple named iOS, Cisco had (and still has) IOS. They just came to some licensing settlement for Apple's use of the name [0].

Actually, it looks like Apple also licensed the iPhone trademark from Cisco too!

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS#:~:text=In%20June%202010%2....

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm skeptical about working out with a headset, at all. There are probably some good use cases, but I'm just mentally going through the stuff I'm doing at a gym, and I think that typically a headset would be either a hazard or a gimmick of questionable usefulness.

I've found some great cardio apps on the Quest and they're one of the top things I go back for.

Can you share the apps? I’m very happy with Thrill of the fight and pistol whip but I’m always looking for more.

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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post #433
post #22

Meta has a lot of work to do on DevEx for non-gaming experiences. Say what you want with the Vision Pro, but it comes with a lot of niceities like SwiftUI. When you develop with the Quest, you're stuck with Unity or Unreal Engine -- it's almost too much freedom to develop simple productivity apps.

It's all going to end up in JavaScript anyway. I say this as a joke, yet: https://www.npmjs.com/package/react-unity-webgl Simply rendering your Unity Application within your React Application is just the beginning! The Unity Context exposes a lot more fun functions and properties to play around with such as two way communication or requesting fullscreen or a pointerlock. The possibilities are endless, what's next is…

A video about their upcoming spatial SDK ("augments") already leaked [0] and you are correct, it's based on JavaScript, using their Spark toolkit [1] which is hardly surprising - when the company already ships a production AR dev kit, why would they not use it?

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svlL_ndNdj0

[1] https://spark.meta.com/

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