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Re: Ex-Google engineer charged with stealing trade secrets

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Post by cryptoBros2023 »

ttul wrote: post #193

If any of you get this far down, one thing that caught my eye is that Google said they had analyzed this guy’s network traffic after locking his laptop, confirming various things. If you work at a large company like Google, every packet on their employee access network is recorded and indexed for forensic purposes. This is not something Google would talk about publicly, but it’s standard practice in any company that…

Why don’t they steal these documents by taking a photo using a camera? I feel like a genius be the first one thought of this.

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Post by kajecounterhack »

boohoowangle wrote: post #481
kajecounterhack wrote: post #443

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…so you mean hire Americans. Also, pretty sure there are no DEI quotas for Asian men.

No, he doesn't mean Americans. He meant Chinese engineers like Irish or German engineers who were born and raised here.

Yeah, my point is "born here" = you are American. It's racist to insinuate that American-born Chinese aren't American.

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Post by fkyoureadthedoc »

freedomben wrote: post #151
fkyoureadthedoc wrote: post #126

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And yet you're the one who brought it up

GP asked a clarifying question. You're desire to read into the question and make assumptions about what you think must have been their intent, rather than just taking the question at face value does not mean GP is "the one who brought it up."

I've not read into anything. Someone brings up a subject, someone else expands on it, then the person who brought it up to begin with starts complaining about what they got. It's stupid, waste of text.

Don't reply to me btw. I didn't bring this up for you to speak about it.

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Post by skinnymuch »

IG_Semmelweiss wrote: post #475
xattt wrote: post #403

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If anything is going to unite two groups of people who are “naturally” on opposite sides of a political spectrum, it’s going to be stopping treasonous activities. I airquote naturally because it’s obvious that foreign interference is at play, based on the laissez-faire attitude towards this sort of thing by some groups.

Correct. The left and the right may be at loggerheads about the best way to manage america. Yet, the vast majority of both camps still think of themselves as american. Neither group will take kindly for others to present themselves as american, to then proceed steal from other americans for the benefit of non-americans. We are all part of the same macro-tribe after all.

Leftism is about both heirarchies and specifically capitalism and colonialism exploiting people and workers.

The capitalists running the companies are the common enemy. Nationalism is a tool, not something to be into once the nation is strong. Sad that people still care about being patriots or whatever when the companies are only paying you a wage while they make profit and keep all control of all the work and means of production.

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Post by hughesjj »

renewiltord wrote: post #321
hughesjj wrote: post #318

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Being born someone does not force you to have an undying allegiance to that place, what are you on about?

It's amusing that every alternative comment is the guy expressly saying he's talking about nationality held and who they hold allegiance to, and every response is a misunderstanding. This is normal stuff. You can even lose your US dual citizenship if you serve in another nation's armed forces. I actually pasted the sequence into ChatGPT and it seems to comprehend him easier than people responding to him. It is always…

If your metric for comprehension is 'agree with op's viewpoint' then it shouldn't be surprising that chatgpt 'comprehends' op better.

Y'all are splitting hairs trying to call it 'nationality' vs birth.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_nationality_law

Like many countries, China has a policy of jus soli. Most countries will not allow you to renounce citizenship should it leave you stateless. So, until you get another citizenship, which is typically a multi year to decades long process, you don't really have a say as to what your 'nationality' is.

It's not like an infant can reasonably consent to be given citizenship, or that they would even have the option if they could.

The OPs metric for allegiance is nationality, which itself is determined by where you were born rather than any actual beliefs or practices. It's disingenuous at best.

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Post by hughesjj »

tristor wrote: post #320
hughesjj wrote: post #318

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Being born someone does not force you to have an undying allegiance to that place, what are you on about?

I don't think your response is in good faith, since you are responding to a comment where I explicitly say that I have made no reference to where someone is born, only to their allegiance. Do you not understand what the term "national" means? A significant number of US nationals were not born here, being born here is not a prerequisite to be a national. While the same is largely not true for China, there are many peo…

> there are many people born in China who are no longer Chinese nationals because they have renounced their citizenship as part of immigrating and naturalizing elsewhere.

Do tell, how does one go about naturalizing elsewhere?

In the country I live in, it typically takes over ten years and requires establishing a support system in said country first (employment, social connection, etc).

If you ban everyone from a country from immigrating (which is exactly what you're proposing for all birthright citizenship countries), you prevent naturalization from even being a possibility.

You claiming I'm arguing in bad faith while ignoring the Titanic sinking your argument did give me a chuckle though, I grant you that.

Re: Ex-Google engineer charged with stealing trade secrets

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Post by tristor »

hughesjj wrote: post #496
tristor wrote: post #320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think your response is in good faith, since you are responding to a comment where I explicitly say that I have made no reference to where someone is born, only to their allegiance. Do you not understand what the term "national" means? A significant number of US nationals were not born here, being born here is not a prerequisite to be a national. While the same is largely not true for China, there are many peo…

> there are many people born in China who are no longer Chinese nationals because they have renounced their citizenship as part of immigrating and naturalizing elsewhere. Do tell, how does one go about naturalizing elsewhere? In the country I live in, it typically takes over ten years and requires establishing a support system in said country first (employment, social connection, etc). If you ban everyone from a coun…

I stopped replying in this thread earlier due to dang’s comment. I am not going to respond fully, as your response is clearly /not/ in good faith.

> If you ban everyone from a country from immigrating (which is exactly what you're proposing for all birthright citizenship countries)

Nowhere do I say anything of the sort. I am pro—immigration generally.

Stop trying to put words in my mouth and then battling the straw man.

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