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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Did I get this right? Bard – old name of their generative AI service, to be called Gemini Duet AI – old name for their generative AI in Google Workspace, to be called Gemini Gemini – three things: 1. the name of their models (like GPT). 2. the new name of their free service (like ChatGPT), gives access to Pro 1.0 but not Ultra 1.0. 3. the new name of the Generative AI tools in Google Workspace. Gemini Advanced – the…

> Gemini – three things: 1. the name of their models (like GPT). 2. the new name of their free service (like ChatGPT), gives access to Pro 1.0 but not Ultra 1.0. 3. the new name of the Generative AI tools in Google Workspace.

Or a single brand for all of their LMM-based products?

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#492

This is an impressive product, well done Google. There is a PM in there somewhere who knows what they are doing, kudos to you. Prediction: they get to 6-7 digit number of paying customers, decide it is peanuts for them (~$20M/mo) and instead decide to push the free version with ads with full force as the future of search.

Are they in an innovation dilemma now? If Gemini is great as it seem it is and will be it will destroy the search engine and the SEO/SEM/etc world. They can show ads in Gemini but we don't have a list of results from a query but an answer to a question. I think this changes the general idea of online ads.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#493

I’ve been pretty excited to finally try Gemini advanced. So far pretty disappointed. Here’s my go-to test question - which even chat gpt 3.5 can get. Question: I walk up to a glass door. It has the word push on it in mirror writing. Should I push or pull the door, and why Gemini advanced: You should push the door. Here's why: * Mirror Writing: The word "PUSH" is written in mirror writing, meaning it would appear corr…

This is what i get from Gemini:

You should pull the door. Here's why:

Mirror writing: While the word "push" is written on the door, it's in mirror writing. This is a common way to indicate that the action needed to open the door is the opposite of what's written. Safety: Mirroring the word "push" on a pull door is a safety measure. This helps prevent people from pushing against the door, potentially causing injury or damage to the glass. Common practice: This design is quite common for glass doors in public places, so it's safe to assume the opposite of what's written applies unless there are other clear instructions. Therefore, even though the word "push" is present, seeing it in mirror writing on a glass door strongly suggests that pulling the door is the intended way to open it.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#494

Search for it in the Play Store, first icons are Crypto.com and Gemini: Buy Bitcoin & Crypto options to install Scroll past the screenshots of those apps Scroll past the Limitied-time events Scroll past the You Might Also Like and Similar Apps OK now we see it, we install, it we launch it and..."Gemini isn't ccurrently available. Try again later." Bravo Google. Great launch.

Perhaps Google DeepMind should hire an SEO business to get their results higher in the Play Store search.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#495
post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I take it for granted that all these services are going to be free. They are a goldmine for behavioral and persuasion engineers. I just hope we end up with at least a duopoly this time instead of monopoly

> I take it for granted that all these services are going to be free. They are a goldmine for behavioral and persuasion engineers. They are also a goldmine for LLMs. Training on human text is necessary for AIs but it has one major flaw - it is so called "off-policy". That means it portrays human behavior and human errors. While human-AI chat logs portray AI errors, so they are better material to generate training dat…

> chatGPT is reportedly serving 10M customers and let's assume 10K tokens/month/user

No way. Definitely too high once you remove their system prompts.

> In one year they have 12T tokens, while their original training set for GPT-4 was rumored to be 13T tokens.

This sounds great for understanding use, but the quality to train on seems terrible.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#496

Did I get this right? Bard – old name of their generative AI service, to be called Gemini Duet AI – old name for their generative AI in Google Workspace, to be called Gemini Gemini – three things: 1. the name of their models (like GPT). 2. the new name of their free service (like ChatGPT), gives access to Pro 1.0 but not Ultra 1.0. 3. the new name of the Generative AI tools in Google Workspace. Gemini Advanced – the…

Congratulations, you're hired!

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#497
post #82

In the 20 minutes of experimentation, I'm really impressed with the quality of Bard Advanced (Gemini Ultra). The results are as good as GPT-4, and in some cases is better. So far: pros: - better at translation (tried Chinese and Japanese idioms to English) - better at incorporating search results in its answer vs gpt-4 bing cons: - slightly worse at coding - censorship is more annoying (have to ask multiple times abo…

> - slightly worse at coding

> - Worse at logic (e.g. it contradicts itself in a single sentence, and is unable to figure it out)

That takes most of my use cases. "logic" is what makes GPT often feel like AGI.

Use cases like translation seem less impressive in comparison to logical reasoning because it feels like it's just something where you can throw a lot of data and it'll do better. While with logical reasoning it still feels like model "learned" something more than pure pattern matching

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#498

Search for it in the Play Store, first icons are Crypto.com and Gemini: Buy Bitcoin & Crypto options to install Scroll past the screenshots of those apps Scroll past the Limitied-time events Scroll past the You Might Also Like and Similar Apps OK now we see it, we install, it we launch it and..."Gemini isn't ccurrently available. Try again later." Bravo Google. Great launch.

It could be worse.

Google Play in a browser: "This app is not available for your device"

Google Play app: "This item is not available in your country."

Aurora Store: "Download Failed. App not purchased"

Great launch indeed. Bravo.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#499
post #492

This is an impressive product, well done Google. There is a PM in there somewhere who knows what they are doing, kudos to you. Prediction: they get to 6-7 digit number of paying customers, decide it is peanuts for them (~$20M/mo) and instead decide to push the free version with ads with full force as the future of search.

Are they in an innovation dilemma now? If Gemini is great as it seem it is and will be it will destroy the search engine and the SEO/SEM/etc world. They can show ads in Gemini but we don't have a list of results from a query but an answer to a question. I think this changes the general idea of online ads.

Nothing stopping them from eventually slapping a big-ol' banner ad on the side of the web app if they want.
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