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Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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My 8 year old Volvo does that rarely (two times in 8 years). At least it has a watchdog that reboots the dash and keeps running.

Guessing an eight year old Volvo still has a working speedometer during a restart, though.

It's a V40 with the LCD based speedometer. It's still a computer screen but driven by a separate CPU running the QNX OS which won't crash ;)

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Counterpoint: The new crop of BYD EVs seem to be really well built - up with European/Asian brands in their market segment. They still lag somewhat in other areas (drivetrain efficiency, software, ADAS etc.), but to say that a new company can't build cars well is simply just not true.

Wouldn’t it be more fair to compare a Chinese made Tesla to a Chinese made BYD? Surely, some Chinese consumer sentiment has been developed since they compete head on in the Chinese market?

Chinese Teslas might be higher quality since China has forced Tesla to do multiple recalls for door faults, suspension failures and accelerator problems, including for issues Tesla straight forwardly lied about to customers and regulators in the US and Europe.

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Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Wouldn't be the first time the dealership was telling customer complete BS assuming that they don't have a clue in order to either get out of a warranty repair or to inflate an invoice. Also dealerships not having a clue is not rare either. Many garages these days only connect a computer to the diagnostics port, download whatever error codes are shown and tell the shocked driver that half of their car is kaputt with…

As another commenter mentioned, this is actually expected behaviour [1]. Because it’s precedented, it’s treated as okay [2]. To me, the car broke. Plainly and simply. And had Tesla had a similar fuckup, I don’t think they’d find sympathy. (Reasonably.) That’s something that comes with a longevity. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38762366 [2] https://www.subaruoutback.org/threads/loose-gas-cap-causes-e...

It's an emissions violation, that's why.

Yes it should be better documented. I ran into this as well on my Subaru, but once the cap is on proper it -should- turn off within ~1hr of driving (constant or short trips)

To wit; if you don't put AdBlue in a diesel it will eventually outright stop working altogether even though it's only there for emissions.

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People don’t realize that even corporations have budgets and have to choose what to invest in. It’s not as if TSLA is paying dividends. All of the money that comes in goes to somewhere. They chose to invest in certain things (sales, manufacturing ramp up, pickup and semi development, charger network, driverless development etc.) and not in others (panel gaps, fit and finish, etc.) Easy to decide you disagree but it i…

> > Easy to decide you disagree but it is working for them. Corporations wins are customers losses. In Tesla case even more considering they are literally re-inventing the wheel for political purposes so the whole effort is even more ridiculous.

That’s a zero-sum way of looking at a non-zero-sum situation.

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And my claim is that during a yearly maintenance any faults are found and corrected before the HU inspection. If you don't have a yearly maintenance then you have a longer time period for faults to develop. Or for items to expire, like a first aid kit.

Not German, but I do wonder if it's common to schedule your oil change and other maintenance just before your state inspection. I would certainly do that; get the dealer to fix all pending issues and get the car into tip-top shape just before a mandatory inspection. If this is the case, you would expect more problems with Tesla, as there isn't a dealer mechanic minimizing issues just before inspection.

It’s not uncommon to ask a garage to take care of the whole TÜV inspection process - they’ll do a pre-inspection, correct any issues they find, take the car to the TÜV, and then also fix any issues in the (unlikely) event that it fails.

This likely wouldn’t be the process with a Tesla, given there are no brick-and-mortar Tesla mechanics, and it’s less likely (given the absence of servicing) you’d have an ongoing relationship with a traditional garage for the car.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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where do you live that VW doesn’t support car play or did they drop support? My last two vws going back to 2017 in the US support it and so have vws i’ve rented in Spain.

Portugal. 2018 Amarok.

Do you have the basic media unit that doesn't do anything or what? Otherwise you can just google the instructions to update and unlock your unit's features for free. Most MIB2(.5) units can easily be hacked.

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> That's up for a through debate, but not today Were it not for Tesla, America wouldn’t be on a path towards electrified transport. The tradeoffs are incredibly germane to the topic.

Even if we take for granted that Tesla is a net positive, Tesla isn't SV. For every Tesla there is a Facebook that is a net negative. Just ask Myanmar.

> > For every Tesla there is a Facebook that is a net negative. Just ask Myanmar.

It's the opposite, Tesla is a huge net negative, whereas Facebook is a huge net positive.

People are so weird these days, they come to hate the stuff that they use everyday and idolise stuff that would never use nor need to use

I believe it has to do with the fact that most people really aren't happy with themselves or their lives

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They aren't pulling the andon cord because the panel gap's are within tolerance but could be improved. Parent post is talking about general fit and finish (i.e. tolerances being wide), try being a production line operative and pulling the andon because you think panel gaps could be decreased. You are supposed to be pulling it if you notice the wiring loom is broken or something like that, not just fit and finish. Bes…

It seems that one basic misunderstanding is the idea that you could just jump into the deep end and start producing six sigma quality at scale. You can’t. Each sigma represents an order of magnitude of additional work at refining the production process, and that does not happen overnight.

Totally agree - you don't put an andon cord on your production line or 'do six sigma' and suddenly get perfect car quality - it's a slow and incremental process.

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I think what he is saying is that there's a dealership service visit immediately before an inspection. That would certainly decrease inspection rejects. A great way to manipulate inspection statistics.

No, a great way to maintain cars...

No no, TÜV is TSLAQ! /s

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The brakes are rarely used, so they begin to rust. Having fully functional brakes are mandatory even if you rarely use them.

I suppose it depends on what parts are rusty and how rusty. Surface rust on rotors is not really problematic. I'm wondering if it's a subjective visual inspection vs a test of brake function.

Not just surface rust. Keep in mind that Germany salts the roads in winter, and water + salt causes corrosion in brake pads.
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