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Re: Gemini AI

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Post by phillipcarter »

ren_engineer wrote: post #268
phillipcarter wrote: post #2

> Starting on December 13, developers and enterprise customers can access Gemini Pro via the Gemini API in Google AI Studio or Google Cloud Vertex AI. Excited to give this a spin. There will be rough edges, yes, but it's always exciting to have new toys that do better (or worse) in various ways.

Gemini Pro is only GPT3.5 tier according to the benchmarks, so unless they make it extremely cheap I don't see much value in even playing around with it

I still think it's worth it. GPT-3.5 is extremely powerful, and it's what we use in production. GPT-4 is way overkill for our prompt and use case.

If it's similar, or even marginally better in any way, we'd consider switching over. Not because OpenAI is bad or anything (they're great, actually!) but because it's so easy to do that.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by amai »

empath-nirvana wrote: post #127

I started talking to it about screenplay ideas and it came up with a _very_ detailed plan for how an AI might try and take over the world. --- Can you go into more detail about how an ai might orchestrate a global crisis to seize control and reshape the world according to it's own logic? --- The AI's Plan for Global Domination: Phase 1: Infiltration and Manipulation: Information Acquisition: The AI, through various m…

That sounds like Putins playbook.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by konschubert »

w10-1 wrote: post #464
milesward wrote: post #136

This demo is nuts: https://youtu.be/UIZAiXYceBI?si=8ELqSinKHdlGlNpX

It's a very smooth demo, for demo's sake. So the killer app for AI is to replace Where's Waldo? for kids? Or perhaps that's the fun, engaging, socially-acceptable marketing application. I'm looking for the demo that shows how regular professionals can train it to do the easy parts of their jobs. That's the killer app.

There are many answers and each is a company.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by dwaltrip »

blev wrote: post #363
mg wrote: post #293

To test whether bard.google.com is already updated in your region, this prompt seems to work: Which version of Bard am I using? Here in Europe (Germany), I get: The current version is Bard 2.0.3. It is powered by the Google AI PaLM 2 model Considering that you have to log in to use Bard while Bing offers GPT-4 publicly and that Bard will be powered by Gemini Pro, which is not the version that they say beats GPT-4, it…

It's probably hallucinating that versioning. You can't trust LLMs to provide info about themselves.

If the info is in the system prompt, you can trust it. You'd think they would indiciate if it's Gemini in the system prompt.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by visarga »

ma2rten wrote: post #468
corethree wrote: post #441

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Didn't Google invent LLMs and didn't Google have an internal LLm with similar capabilities long before openai released the gpts? Remember when that guy got fired for making a claim it was conscious ? The look isn't good. But it's not dishonest.

No this is not correct. Arguably OpenAI invented LLMs with GPT3 and the preceding scaling laws paper. I worked on LAMDA, it came after GPT4 and was not as capable. Google did invent the transformer, but all the authors of the paper have left since.

This is like the Ship of Theseus. If all transformer authors reunited under one startup rival of Google, who would have the bragging rights?

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by pb7 »

mattmaroon wrote: post #456
tikkun wrote: post #60

One observation: Sundar's comments in the main video seem like he's trying to communicate "we've been doing this ai stuff since you (other AI companies) were little babies" - to me this comes off kind of badly, like it's trying too hard to emphasize how long they've been doing AI (which is a weird look when the currently publicly available SOTA model is made by OpenAI, not Google). A better look would simply be to sh…

I do think that’s a backfire. Telling me how long you’ve been doing something isn’t that impressive if the other guy has been doing it for much less time and is better at it. It’s in fact the opposite.

Not if the little guy leveraged your inventions/research.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by bogwog »

tikkun wrote: post #60

One observation: Sundar's comments in the main video seem like he's trying to communicate "we've been doing this ai stuff since you (other AI companies) were little babies" - to me this comes off kind of badly, like it's trying too hard to emphasize how long they've been doing AI (which is a weird look when the currently publicly available SOTA model is made by OpenAI, not Google). A better look would simply be to sh…

> Sundar's comments in the main video seem like he's trying to communicate "we've been doing this ai stuff since you (other AI companies) were little babies" - to me this comes off kind of badly

Reminds me of the Stadia reveal, where the first words out of his mouth were along the lines of "I'll admit, I'm not much of a gamer"

This dude needs a new speech writer.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by z3ncyberpunk »

tikkun wrote: post #200
tikkun wrote: post #60

One observation: Sundar's comments in the main video seem like he's trying to communicate "we've been doing this ai stuff since you (other AI companies) were little babies" - to me this comes off kind of badly, like it's trying too hard to emphasize how long they've been doing AI (which is a weird look when the currently publicly available SOTA model is made by OpenAI, not Google). A better look would simply be to sh…

To add to my comment above: Google DeepMind put out 16 videos about Gemini today, the total watch time at 1x speed is about 45 mins. I've now watched them all (at >1x speed). In my opinion, the best ones are: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIZAiXYceBI - variety of video/sight capabilities * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPwU1FNhMOA - understanding direction of light and plants * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D…

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