Has a copy of the letter signed by employees been posted online anywhere? That would provide some credibility to the article.
OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sam Altman was fired
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#492Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But now it looks like the board is represented by D’Angelo, a guy who has his own AI Chatbot company and a bigger conflict of interest with than ever since dev day, when open AI launched highly similar features. Could this be the explanation? That D'Angelo didn't like how OpenAI was eating his lunch and wanted Sam out? Occam's razor and all that.
Right now I think that’s the most plausible explanation simply because none of the other explanations that have been floating around make any sense when you consider all the facts. We know enough now to know that the “safety-focused nonprofit entity versus reckless profit entity“ narrative doesn’t hold up. And if it’s wrong, D’Angelo and the rest of the board could help themselves out by explaining the real reason in…
> This gossip is going to continue for as long as they stay silent.
Their lawyers are all screaming at them to shut up. This is going to be a highly visible and contested set of decisions that will play out in courtrooms, possibly for years.
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#493Neither of these reasons have anything to do with a lofty ideology regarding the safety of AGI or OpenAI’s nonprofit status. Rather it seems they are micromanaging personnel decisions. Also notice that Ilya Sutskever is presenting the reasons for the firing as just something he was told. This is important, because people were siding with the board under the understanding this firing was led by the head research scien…
> But now it looks like the board is represented by D’Angelo, a guy who has his own AI Chatbot company and a bigger conflict of interest with than ever since dev day, when open AI launched highly similar features. Could this be the explanation? That D'Angelo didn't like how OpenAI was eating his lunch and wanted Sam out? Occam's razor and all that.
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#494Maybe trying to backdoor sell your company to Microsoft even though its owned by a non profit might be it? you know, Microsoft showed its true face today.
This is even worse than Google's destruction of Firefox
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I find it absolutely fascinating that Emmett accepted this position. He can game all scenarios and there is no way that he can come out ahead on any of them. One would expect an experienced Silicon Valley CEO to make this calculus and realize it's a lost cause. The fact he accepted to me shows he's not a particularly good leader.
That seems kind of silly to say. He's not a good leader because he's taking on a challenge?
A challenge he can't win, brought in by people 90% of the company hates, and with the four most influential people in the company either gone or having turned on the board does not sound like a "challenge" but more like a "guaranteed L".
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#496They found a monolith, but are saying it’s an epidemic
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You can either act like a professional and control the messaging or let others fill the vacuum with idle speculation. I'm quite frankly in shock as to the level of responsibility displayed by people whose position should demand high function.
Really? I’ve always assumed (known) there is no actual difference between high level execs and you: they just think higher of themselves.
What you've likely seen of executives is 15 minutes of face time after 7 weeks of vicious Game of Thrones behind the scenes. It's a curated image.
Re: OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sam Altman was fired
#498If you do a board coup, surely, you then use the best fake reasons you can muster to justify your decision. Why would they hold back giving answers they know wouldn't satisfy anyone and just inspire further anger?
First thought: buying time? Maybe something has to happen first, and they don't want to commit to any irrevocable slander they can't go back on before that? Or maybe, something was supposed to happen but fell through?
Re: OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sam Altman was fired
#499It's always nice to have options.
Re: OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sam Altman was fired
#500There has to be a bigger story to this. Altman took a non-profit and vacuumed up a bunch of donor money only to flip Open AI into the hottest TC style startup in the world. Then put a gas pedal to commercialization. It takes a certain type of politicking and deception to make something like that happen. Then in the past week, he's going and taking money from the Saudis on the order of billions of dollars to make AI a…
100% agree. I've seen this type of thing up close (much smaller potatoes but same type of thing) and whatever is getting aired publicly is most likely not the real story. Not sure if the reasons you guessed are it or not, we probably won't know for awhile but your guesses are as good as mine.