Maybe I am mistaken but has the pricing on GPT-4 decreased as well? It used to be 8c/1000token?
GPT-4 API General Availability
491–500 of 562 posts
Re: GPT-4 API General Availability
#492Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sam tells Congress that AI is so dangerous it will extinct humanity. Why? So Congress can license him and only his buddies. Then get goes to euro and speaks with world leaders to remove consumer protection. Why? So he can mine data without any consequences. He is a narcissistic CEO who lies to win. If you are tired of the past decade of electronic corporate tyranny, abuse, manipulation and lies, then boycott OpenAi (…
> Sam tells Congress that AI is so dangerous it will extinct humanity. Why? So Congress can license him and only his buddies. No, he says it because its true and concerning. However, just because AGI has a good chance of making humanity extinct does not mean we're anywhere close to making AIs that capable. LLMs seem like a dead end.
> No, he says it because its true and concerning.
Both can be true. It is extremely convenient to someone who already has an asset if the nature of that asset means they can make a convincing argument that they should be granted a monopoly.
> LLMs seem like a dead end.
In support of your argument, bear in mind that he's making his argument with knowledge of what un-nerfed LLMs at GPT-4 level are capable of.
Re: GPT-4 API General Availability
#493OK, now I am intrigued by so many comments about how to do this yourself and, especially, for getting answers about your own document, which is what I'm really looking forward. I checked many of the links you posted and, although I am a fluid programmer in several languages, I lack the specific python background that many of these links seem to state as a requirement. Would any kind soul put me in the direction of an…
Easiest would honestly be just to use gpt api. You can literally fork a streamlit or chainlit app and run it locally and then use langchain for any further customization...ex: https://streamlit.io/gallery?category=llms All of them are open source minus the gpt part so you can get a feel for how it works.
Thank you but for legal and compliance reasons data cannot leave my premises/cloud. The entire point is precisely that, to be honest.
Re: GPT-4 API General Availability
#494Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Sam tells Congress that AI is so dangerous it will extinct humanity. Why? So Congress can license him and only his buddies. No, he says it because its true and concerning. However, just because AGI has a good chance of making humanity extinct does not mean we're anywhere close to making AIs that capable. LLMs seem like a dead end.
> However, just because AGI has a good chance of making humanity extinct How? I mean surely it will lead humanity down some chaotic path, but I would fear climate catastrophe much much more than anything AI-related.
At this point there are no evidence that climate catastrophe that can make human extinct is either likely or possible - at least due to global warming. At worst some coastal regions get flooded and places around equator become unlivable without AC. Some people will have to move but it does not make anyone extinct.
We should absolutely care about nature and our impact on it but climate alarmism is not a way to go.
Re: GPT-4 API General Availability
#495Earlier quoted context omitted.
Something is seriously wrong with your network (or your code). That's it that's your answer. It's not OpenAI's fault. We spend over $20k/mo with them and don't have any issues like this. 12 minute timeouts make no sense because first of all why are you even waiting 12 minutes? Get off HN and go fix your shit
I am very happy it works for you! But that does not imply that it works for everyone. Wish you all the best.
The common denominator with these errors is you. Good luck.
Re: GPT-4 API General Availability
#496Promote and proliferate local LLMs. If you use GPT, you're giving OpenAI money to lobby the government so they'll have no competitors, ultimately screwing yourself, your wallet, and the rest of us too. OpenAI has no moat, unless you give them money to write legislation. I can currently run some scary smart and fast LLMs on a 5 year old laptop with no GPU. The future is, at least, interesting.
I tried, and decided it is not worth it. llama.cpp with a 13B model fit into RAM of my laptop, but pushes CPU temperature to 95 degrees within a few seconds, and mightily sucks the battery dry. Besides, the results were slow and rather useless. GPT is the first cloud application I deliberately use to push off computing and energy consumption to an external host which is clearly more capable of handling the request th…
So I do actually want a really good games machine, and an AI worker box. Since I can't both use inference output and play games at the same time, having a ludicrously over-specced desktop for both uses actually makes sense to me.
Re: GPT-4 API General Availability
#497Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Sam tells Congress that AI is so dangerous it will extinct humanity. Why? So Congress can license him and only his buddies. No, he says it because its true and concerning. However, just because AGI has a good chance of making humanity extinct does not mean we're anywhere close to making AIs that capable. LLMs seem like a dead end.
> No, he says it because its true and concerning. Both can be true. It is extremely convenient to someone who already has an asset if the nature of that asset means they can make a convincing argument that they should be granted a monopoly. > LLMs seem like a dead end. In support of your argument, bear in mind that he's making his argument with knowledge of what un -nerfed LLMs at GPT-4 level are capable of.
> It is extremely convenient to someone who already has an asset if the nature of that asset means they can make a convincing argument that they should be granted a monopoly.
While this is absolutely true, it's extremely unlikely that a de jure monopoly would end up at OpenAI's feet rather than any of the FAANGs'. Even in just the USA, and the rest of the world has very different attitudes to risks, freedoms, and data processing.
Not that this proves the opposite — there's enough recent examples of smart people doing dumb things, and even without that the possibility of money can inspire foolishness in most of us.
Re: GPT-4 API General Availability
#498Earlier quoted context omitted.
And get only 20 K tokens per minute, where a decent size question can use up 500 tokens, pretty much a joke for most larger websites. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cognitive-services/o...
That's the default limit for GPT-4 which has more demand than any other LLM in the world.
Which is just demonstrating my point, just saying "go use Azure" doesn't solve anything.
Re: GPT-4 API General Availability
#499Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would someone care if its nice or not? It's an algorithm. You're using it to get output, not to get some psychology help.
There was a guy in the news who asked an AI to tell him it was a good idea to commit suicide, then he killed himself. Even on this forum I've seen AI enthusiasts claiming AI will be the best psychologist, best school teacher, etc.
That was Eliza, an AI so old that it's included in stock Emacs, not an LLM. It's propaganda, not news.