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Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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I couldn't disagree more. I don't see any sign Meta understands what made Twitter great, and the fact that they're heavily branding it with Instagram, using Instagram logins etc suggests to me that they're just looking for another angle to vacuum up user data. Maybe I'm unusual but the accounts I follow on Instagram and Twitter do not have a huge amount of crossover so the fact that their onboarding process tries to…

There's two channels here. From a user perspective "what made Twitter great" is also the least attractive parts for any other company to try and mimic. The absurd levels of pornography, the anonymous fan and joke accounts. From a business perspective, "what made Twitter great" was the easy to digest brands, the non-anonymous accounts sharing their day, and journalists/other named professionals providing up to date in…

I find it mind blowing that people refer to Twitter as "once great" now that it is known that it was essentially a disgusting totalitarian political censorship and propaganda tool for one of the 2 political flavors in the US.

I just don't get how someone can feel that this is better than what it is now and just casually ignore that fact.

I also don't get how people can claim that Twitter is now going to die because "???". HN is into soothsaying now?

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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> are bootstrapping new social networks by mass-scraping Twitter data I am 99% sure that this is not a real thing and that you're using all of these words incorrectly. When was Substack illegally scraping Twitter data? What Twitter data is being used to bootstrap Threads?

> When was Substack illegally scraping Twitter data? https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1644638493883211779 > What Twitter data is being used to bootstrap Threads? I have no proof of this. It's just speculation. I also don't have an iDevice so I can't install the app and look for myself. But the timing of Twitter's rate limiting this week, combined with Elon's clarification that Twitter data is being mass-scraped, c…

I can't read this tweet to find out what Elon is claiming because... gestures wildly around at the state of Twitter.

But linking to an Elon Musk tweet does not on its face change anything about my prior that this is not a real thing and that you're using all of these words incorrectly. Elon thinks everything that is personally inconvenient to him is illegal. He's threatened legal action in the past over advertisers just not buying ads from him.

He just says stuff. But you have to apply some critical thinking here -- what would it even look like to "bootstrap" Threads with Twitter data? These words mean things, if Threads is being bootstrapped with stolen data, there should be Twitter data on Threads -- accounts should be mirrored, content should be mirrored, there should be something. Is there?

> But the timing of Twitter's rate limiting this week, combined with Elon's clarification that Twitter data is being mass-scraped, combined with the launch of Threads this week...can't be a coincidence, can it?

The timing of Threads launching this week is probably a direct response to gestures wildly around at the state of Twitter right now. I find it incredibly unlikely that Instagram launching Threads crippled Twitter's infrastructure.

Particularly given that Elon Musk himself claimed (also likely incorrectly) that it was AI companies crippling the site, not rival social networks.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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> I don't see any sign Meta understands what made Twitter great To be fair, I don’t think I’ve seen much sign that Twitter understands what made Twitter great, either. (both before and after Musk)

At least pre-Musk Twitter quick to adopt popular user-innovations as first-class features (RT, QT, threads & more); features filtered upwards from users. Musk-Twitter is very top-down in trying to incentivize specific monetizable/political behaviors.

Haven't all this features been a thing since forever?

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

lmao

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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I couldn't disagree more. I don't see any sign Meta understands what made Twitter great, and the fact that they're heavily branding it with Instagram, using Instagram logins etc suggests to me that they're just looking for another angle to vacuum up user data. Maybe I'm unusual but the accounts I follow on Instagram and Twitter do not have a huge amount of crossover so the fact that their onboarding process tries to…

I think the Instagram branding is deliberate. Instagram is not a heavy political brand. This will attract the less controversial groups )like bird watchers) that generate great revenue while keeping out the controversial political ones that are massive money pits.

so you think they're also aiming at reddit?

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

#497

Big signals that Musk made a lot of mistakes with twitter if Meta scrambled to ship a competitor like this. I don’t use Twitter so I won’t use this either but it’ll be interesting to see if the instagram folks can take this market from twitter.

Musk made a lot of mistakes with twitter Now call me crazy but I disagree. I think - or rather I feel - he's doing an excelent job somehow. He's doing what other executives are afraid to do: he's building and building requires some walls to be hammered down ; and yeah this makes some noise and smoke. He's moving fast and breaking things (if you'd excuse the easy punt). To me, what he's doing is exciting and I think t…

I can't think of a single improvement to Twitter in the past 9 months. What changes I have noticed have ranged from annoying (extra-long tweets, a lot more white supremacist content to block) to destructive (boosting paid users, recent usage restrictions).

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Instagram booted my account for looking too suspicious. To reactivate the account they wanted me to send a 3D video selfie to verify myself, but that company doesn’t need those sorts of head scans on me. Nope. Account is gone & I’ll never return.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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I want to see a social media site poach key users onto their platforms. NBA Twitter (over a million people easily) would switch overnight if Shams Charania and Adrian Wojnarowski suddenly switched platforms. I think with the right UI/UX, Threads could do it. But we'll see.

Did that happen with substack notes?

I don’t know anyone who left Twitter for substack

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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When was the last time, Facebook launched a successful standalone product? - WhatsApp - acqusition - Instagram - acquistion - Messenger - acquisition - Oculus - acquisition Facebook has DNA to optimize feeds. It, simply, lack the DNA to build good products from scratch. My gut feeling no one will care about Threads, 6 months from now. EDIT: - Facebook was all-in on cryptocurrencies. The project is fully gone. - Faceb…

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