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Tesla Model Y overtakes Corolla to be world’s best-selling car in 2023

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Re: Tesla Model Y overtakes Corolla to be world’s best-selling car in 2023

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Post by CalRobert »

detaro wrote: post #471
Gravityloss wrote: post #467

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And kids running behind the car when reversing. Honestly, visibility is in the top five criteria for me (others include driver's seat, sound proofing and big boot lid). Parking sensors and cameras of course help but are they a total substitute?

The kids case is one where camera has a clear benefit I'd say. Even if you have clear visibility to the rear window, you just can't see anything below the window height. And anyone coming from the sides you'd not see through the rear window either - but a very open vehicle might be a tad better through the side windows? Although with cameras being added to side mirrors or vehicle corners (and large screens!), that ca…

A good reason to have the windows down when reversing - at least then you have the benefit of hearing any kids behind you as well.

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Post by treyfitty »

jlundberg wrote: post #472
ourmandave wrote: post #456

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You can't even get a USED Tesla for under $20K. And who wants to buy a used Tesla (or any EV) even if the price was competitive? The range degrades with the battery and replacing it costs more than the car is worth.

You generally don’t need to replace the battery of an EV during it’s life time.

That depends on how you’re defining lifetime. I doubt the batteries of today will last 12 years, which is the average age of cars on US roads.

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mplewis wrote: post #258
jancsika wrote: post #148

Translation: luxury vehicles are the future of car sales. Model Y is 2 times as expensive as a Corolla. Plus you can go and find an older Corolla with 100k+ miles on it and pay perhaps $5k cash for it, then drive it for another 50-100k. I don't see people in the service industry picking up a used Tesla, now or in the foreseeable future.

Teslas aren’t luxury vehicles, even if they’re sold at a luxury price point.

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Post by matthewdgreen »

drevil-v2 wrote: post #488
victor106 wrote: post #482

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> the difference between driving one and a Tesla is night and day. The one thing I absolutely hated about driving a Tesla was regenerative breaking. They should’ve made it optional. I loved the Ford Mach-e GT. Consumer Reports had it as the best EV for reliability.

Regen braking is optional. You can change it in the settings at any time while parked

It was optional in pre-2020 models but recent models have removed the option. This is one reason we didn't buy one a couple years ago. (If they've added the option back since then, please let me know!) https://insideevs.com/news/451393/tesla-removes-regenerative...

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Post by thevagrant »

SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #446
mschuster91 wrote: post #431

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How the fuck is that even road legal?

because you can see what's behind you? Via the camera, but that's just a detail. It's possible to get _better_ visibility from a camera than a mirror. e.g. good placement, adapting to low light.

I've had plenty of car cameras glitch out or stop working.

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Post by oefrha »

yurishimo wrote: post #474
londons_explore wrote: post #408

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People who care about price don't pay $3k/year on car servicing at a car dealer... They buy some reliable model and pay $50 for an oil change every other year.

I assume you're not in the US since your pricing is totally out of place with most US consumer spending on vehicle maintenance. $50 for an oil change is about right, but every other year? Even Americans who don't drive that often will generally change it about every 6 months. Not to mention things like tires have a lifespan. Even if they aren't worn out, most tires are not meant to be used for longer than around 5 ye…

> Even Americans who don't drive that often will generally change it about every 6 months.

What? Back when I drove a Corolla (in the U.S.) I never changed my oil more than once a year, and no one ever pestered me about it. Where did you get that?

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Post by catketch »

drevil-v2 wrote: post #488
victor106 wrote: post #482

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> the difference between driving one and a Tesla is night and day. The one thing I absolutely hated about driving a Tesla was regenerative breaking. They should’ve made it optional. I loved the Ford Mach-e GT. Consumer Reports had it as the best EV for reliability.

Regen braking is optional. You can change it in the settings at any time while parked

Not any more

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Post by hef19898 »

gruturo wrote: post #487
hef19898 wrote: post #478

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I honestly don't get the obsession with top speed and power, and I live in Germany. I do know the top speed of every single car I ever drove (I had a time I travelled a lot for work, and thus ended up with a nice list of rentals). First, the only place top speed has any, theoretical, relevance in Germany. Everywhere else anything above 150 km/h is wasted, I'll ignore track days here. Acceleration is nice, but again e…

> I honestly don't get the obsession with top speed and power, and I live in Germany. I do live in Germany too and routinely drive above 140 where allowed on the autobahn - it's a pleasure. So yes it does actually impact me, in a very real way. Additionally: - Top speed of 220+ means you accelerate from 130 to 160 easily , so you can safely pass the slowpoke ahead while not becoming an obstacle to faster traffic. A t…

Until recently I commuted on lengthy stretches of unlimited, mostly, roads. On good days I avergaed out north of 160. Bad for fuel economy, but fun.

Top speed has nothing to do with acceleration, a car can be limited at, say, 180 and still accelerate and be speced for 250. Heck, all German premium brands are, for the most part, limited at 250. Theoretically they can all go faster. Sure, there is a floor, but in practical terms it is much less relevant than people think. Also, it only matters in Germamy on select roads, everywhere else speed limits are much, much lower than car top speeds anyway.

And breaksbare sized fornmore than speed, they are sized relative to engine power and car weight. Speed is simply a function engine power, transmission and weight.

While loving to go fast, going fast in a staight line on a road made to do so is the opposite of dangerous or risky. Saying that, I am in total favor of a speed limit, 130 propably won't work in Germany, so. In general, we need one. And we have them any way most of the time, the percentage of unlimited km of roads is way smaller than people think. Once we have them, maybe we can have more realistic discussion about cars and mobility, at the moment everybody drols over their 300+ bhp "race cars". And brands sell on that image. That doesn't help switching to EVs, nor does it help cutting emissions.

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Post by D13Fd »

CalRobert wrote: post #489
mikeryan wrote: post #137

One thing that EV's have an advantage of is the reduced footprint of their drivetrain. The primary bulk of an EV is the massive battery that usually spans the bottom of the car opening up space in the interior or the ubiquitous EV "frunk" this makes for a more spacious interior and the Y takes advantage of this well. That being said it seems that 2023 is the year of the EV, my family is currently in the market for a…

What's wrong with minivans? I always loved having the ability to haul tons of stuff or people depending on the need.

Agreed. I would love a good electric minivan (e.g. an electric Honda Odyssey). There are supposed to be a few coming down the pike but I had to buy a cheap used internal combustion one for now.
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