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Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#492

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no need to defend Elon here. Clearly what will happen is highly capricious enforcement based on who he personally likes and dislikes.

Don't ascribe motivations to me without evidence. This is not a defense of Elon Musk. I think this policy is stupid. But our criticisms of it should be correct. Otherwise we're no better than our opponents.

> You should stop ascribing motivations to people without evidence.

I very much agree, however doing that first requires that one is able to perceive reality without making errors, and that is a lot harder than it seems.

As for censorship: all platforms have it, including HN, and opinions (aka: reality) vary on which approach is best.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#493

I think Musk fails to understand what the 'social' in social media stands for, if people can no longer freely link to content elsewhere on the web then that's the end of Twitter. Social media exists by virtue of its inbound and outbound links.

At this point it's really hard to not start believing the conspiracy theories about him destroying the site on purpose - it's just so farcical

If not for him trying to get out of it through a lawsuit first it would indeed be hard.

But even taking that into account it isn't such a stretch, after all, once it became obvious he was going to be on the hook for executing the deal the next question would have been: how to get maximum mileage out of this.

The one thing that still has me holding back from that conclusion is that Elon apparently values Twitter more than he does either his money or the Tesla brand, both of which appear to be on fire.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#495

It is sickening seeing how far Twitter has fallen. Be sure to get an archive of your Twitter data while you still can. https://twitter.com/settings/download_your_data Also if you are on Mastodon the tools to follow your Twitter followers are probably still working but may not very much longer. My favorite of the bunch is https://www.movetodon.org/

> Be sure to get an archive of your Twitter data while you still can It worked for me in the past (a few months ago). Today, however, I can't even receive an SMS to make a backup due to having a Ukrainian phone number.

Ugh, sorry to hear about the SMS problem.

One weird thing I noticed: Twitter wanted me to use an Email/SMS for two factor even though I have a registered TOTP token to log in to Twitter. I think that's been the case for awhile, not a new change, but still strange.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#496

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> dude had actually put his money (lawsuit or not) where his mouth was, and that's a commendable thing. No he didn't. He was forced to.

Nobody forced him into committing to buy Twitter in the first place. What they forced him to do was follow through on that commitment per the contract he signed.

Exactly, my point is he literally tried to refuse to put his money where his mouth was. He said some bullshit and tried to back out. This is nothing deserving of respect.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#498

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One could argue that but one would be wrong because cross-posting is clearly allowed if you read the whole policy instead of just the first section.

There's no need to defend Elon here. Clearly what will happen is highly capricious enforcement based on who he personally likes and dislikes.

> There's no need to defend Elon here.

There is at least arguably value in defending/pursuing the truth though.

> Clearly what will happen is highly capricious enforcement based on who he personally likes and dislikes.

Visions of the future are sometimes not as accurate as they appear due to shortcomings in the simulator.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#499

(from another thread) Any attorneys want to weigh in on whether - or when - this becomes an anti-competitive/anti-trust concern, either in the US (FTC) or the EU? Related reading: * Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU) Article 102, on abusive conduct by companies that have a dominant position in a market: https://competition-policy.ec.europa.eu/antitrust/procedures... . Any EU resident can file a co…

I have already filed an FTC anti competitive complaint using a Wayback link of the post over coffee this morning. I encourage others to do the same. You don’t need deep pockets, let the executive branch do the work for you. That’s their job. Takes ~5 min. https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/ If you’re in Europe: https://competition-policy.ec.europa.eu/antitrust/procedures...

It may be important to highlight that both this new policy just as Musk's own straight-forward comments have already proven that bird site not only suppressed engagement with but also defamed its competition solely because they are the competition.

Especially companies - like the German and Japanese ones running the top 3 instances - or associations have the right to complaint even though Mastodon is not their own brand.

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