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Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by Fomite »

legitster wrote: post #134
danpalmer wrote: post #14

The good: Twitter should not be editorally curating people through verification, making verification only about ID and being a real person is a broadly good change, as long as it's not necessary for participation. Brands, celebrities, those in the public eye could benefit from this. Needs to be implemented with care and ideally with a branding change so as not to confuse users as the semantics change. The bad: $8 is…

> $8 is way more than the profitability of an ad supported user. Than an average user. But if you are a power user, you have just sent a valuable marketing signal. > Paying $8 to get your voice heard by more people biases towards those with means Strong disagree. Twitter currently only exists as a bullhorn for already famous people, or a few lucky early adopters.

"Strong disagree. Twitter currently only exists as a bullhorn for already famous people, or a few lucky early adopters."

Not if you curate it at all.

My two Twitter accounts are dominated by...my fellow academics on one of them, and niche hobbyists on the other.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by neaden »

mjfl wrote: post #441
sumeno wrote: post #427

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If the barrier to a checkmark is $8 then all the scammers are going to have checkmarks too

and now we have more of a paper trail to stop them

The most common scam I see on Twitter is imposter accounts replying to a real person with a link to some crypto scam. Right now you can usually immediately tell it's a different person since the reply doesn't have a check mark, this system seems like it will make it easier since the scammer can just get a checkmark.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by oska »

Waterluvian wrote: post #51
mikkergp wrote: post #12

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It's such... odd behavior. For sure Stephen King who has a net worth of $500 million dollars does not mean "the price is too high". If Elon is successful, even I will read the business school case study on it, because it flies in the face of everything I understand about complex systems and... well just about everything. The only way this works is if Elon's internal processes are way different from his public persona…

One of the things I admire about Elon (which is saying a lot...) is that for whatever reason, he's ready to bet the farm over and over. Whether he's some genius tactician or an impulsive moron, he just bought Twitter and is poised to drastically alter it. "flies in the face of everything I understand about complex systems" indeed! Forgive me for this analogy but it's in the news: Imagine if NATO just said one day, "y…

> Forgive me for this analogy but it's in the news: Imagine if NATO just said one day

No, I definitely won't forgive you your 'analogy', because it's sneaking in a highly irresponsible argument for military escalation into a completely unrelated discussion.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by smittywerben »

My replies to Tweets aren't even in the always-dead bin at the bottom. The bin where you have to click to "Show additional replies, including those that may contain offensive content".

Literally it has penis pics, OnlyFans referrals, and an occasional sliver of humanity which has me question what they did to be flagged as always dead. But not my replies.

My replies only appear on my profile under the Tweets and replies tab.

In some cases, I would rather be in the click for more 'penis bin' than be shadowbanned.

People should Tweet directly at the person instead of hogging the reply space with OT insults.

edits: wording

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by madeofpalk »

zzleeper wrote: post #456
madeofpalk wrote: post #361

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I think this would do the complete opposite. Create two tiers of of users: Lords with the money to spend $8/month on getting a blue tick next to their name, and the peasants who don't cough up. I can't wait to be disregarded just as a spam bot because I thought it's an embarrassing waste of money.

Can't it actually be the opposite? Like, sure I could pay $8/no (a coffee plus croissant) but it signals that I care so much about being heard on twitter that I'm willing to PAY for it... Only losers do so, so blue checkmarks a are that.

I think it would do both tbh.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by koonsolo »

causality0 wrote: post #428
koonsolo wrote: post #415

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> In reality Twitter is more akin to YouTube than Facebook. There is a very big difference between Twitter and YouTube, and it's obvious once you know it. Look at the most popular people on twitter: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-followed_Twitte... All celebrities outside of twitter. Then look at YouTube: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-subscribed_YouT... Almost all made famous by YouTube.…

Yeah, if you got famous exclusively on Twitter it's because you're a demagogue, not a content creator.

Can you name the MrBeast or PewDiePie of twitter?

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by carbine »

UncleMeat wrote: post #336
memish wrote: post #177

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Imagine thinking he made the decision based on that.

He's owned Twitter for a few days. He threw out $20 and then adjusted it down to $8, seemingly based on feedback. Did he already know that $8 was the appropriate amount? Was there already some internal analysis done that he is just piggy-backing on? It certainly seems like Musk is making big changes literally moments after arriving on scene.

yes great point, without a doubt he put together $44B and never once thought about what he would do once he acquired it.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

koonsolo wrote: post #415
paxys wrote: post #322

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That's the core problem with this approach. Elon and others have the idea in their head that Twitter is a social graph where people come to interact with each other, and everyone is relatively equal. So every user paying $X/mo to solidify their place in the graph makes some conceptual sense. In reality Twitter is more akin to YouTube than Facebook. A tiny percentage of users are creators while the vast majority are c…

> In reality Twitter is more akin to YouTube than Facebook. There is a very big difference between Twitter and YouTube, and it's obvious once you know it. Look at the most popular people on twitter: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-followed_Twitte... All celebrities outside of twitter. Then look at YouTube: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-subscribed_YouT... Almost all made famous by YouTube.…

If you're famous, you'll almost certainly have a twitter account, although there are obviously exceptions. The same just doesn't seem to go for YouTube. Creating content on YT is a lot more time-consuming than creating it on Twitter, of course.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by mkoubaa »

bcrosby95 wrote: post #174
minimaxir wrote: post #5

The price 100% was $20/mo as previously reported by journalists until Twitter dunked on it, and Elon's interpretation of the backlash is "the price is too high" and not "any price makes no sense at all." This pricing clarification is most likely due to Stephen King's complaint: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587312517679878144 > We need to pay the bills somehow! Twitter cannot rely entirely on advertisers. How…

"Elon, what made you decide on $8?" "I was going to charge $20, but then Stephen King told me it was too much."

If any number is going to be shit on may as well pick one that has a fun story

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by IshKebab »

enumjorge wrote: post #409
bcrosby95 wrote: post #174

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"Elon, what made you decide on $8?" "I was going to charge $20, but then Stephen King told me it was too much."

You joke, but after reading some texts from Musk and his social circle [1], I find it plausible that that is how some of these business decisions get made. [1] https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/09/elon-...

Doesn't seem like too bad a method to me. Apart from in situations where you have a ton of data (e.g. Amazon) most product prices are pulled out of someone's arse anyway.
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