I refused to go into an on-site in SF because our offices are in the midmarket area. Portland OR is even worse than SF.
Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
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Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
#492Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are very specific criminal justice reform and soft-on-crime policies that lead to this. If you go to Tokyo, you'll be put in jail for doing drugs. Most likely extremely tough prison sentence of a decade or more. It prevents people from doing drugs and getting trapped in the spiraling destruction of self. Here in America, we have NYC and SF opening clinics to comfortably allow people to shoot heroine in the comf…
The US has the world's highest incarceration rate (and by some distance--it's about 10% higher than the second highest rate, El Salvador, and 300% higher than the highest rate among the EU countries), and Japan is around the 20th lowest. This strongly suggests that incarceral policies are not the most effective solution to reducing crime.
> This strongly suggests that incarceral policies are not the most effective solution to reducing crime.
No it doesn't, because you've only changed one variable, and there's a lot more that differentiates the US from those countries other than prisons
Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
#493Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Mayor of San Francisco appointed a tough-on-crime prosecutor who has spoken in public in favor of reviving failed policies like the war on drugs, purged employees hired by her progressive predecessor, and canceled investigations into police misconduct. You already have the most reactionary, cuff-em-and-stuff-em prosecutor you’re likely to get in San Francisco. So if crime is still a problem, you’re going to have…
As I point out downthread, it will take time for this to manifest. Compare and Contrast Daly City/San Mateo county. It's not like the USSR where you bring in a show team to convict and send everyone to the Gulags overnight and instill fear through marxist means. No, this takes time and effort to turn around. From Koch to Dinkins to Giuliani --it takes time to tamp down crime. For things to straighten out support for…
That’s crazy, I actually show up every morning to do my job without the Mayor personally telling me that I’m brave and handsome every day. There’s a fair amount of stickers outside my apartment that say things like “Die Techie Scum,” and yet, I keep showing up for work to do the job I get paid to do.
Maybe we should find some cops who are capable of doing the job they’re paid to do, instead of insisting on a wholesale cultural revolution to protect their fragile egos at all costs.
Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
#494San Francisco has its heart in the right place and is struggling to grapple with the reality that lax drug laws invites the wrong kind of people to the city.
Switzerland and Portugal are the counter examples that prove you wrong. Both decriminalized drugs and treat them as the medical problem that they really are. The heroin problem was especially bad in Switzerland and you could find homeless addicts all over public places.
Yes but they dont allow open drug scenes. And they dont allow the rampant theft and dysfunction that comes with those encampments
Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
#495Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can replace the police force, nothing will change. When cops feel unwanted and disrespected they act accordingly. There's a reason we have a history of unwarranted respect for cops and military members. It's not because they always deserve it, but because you want them to feel like they do.
> There's a reason we have a history of unwarranted respect for cops and military members. It's not because they always deserve it, but because you want them to feel like they do. In other words, either we show them obsequience and respect they don't deserve, or else they'll "act accordingly" and just start robbing and killing people en masse. That's no better than the mafia. Actually it's worse than the mafia becaus…
Nowhere in my comment was there anything about tolerating mafia-like behavior. It's really not complicated. Of course cops should be reprimanded for bad behavior, as they are.
Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
#496Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can replace the police force, nothing will change. When cops feel unwanted and disrespected they act accordingly. There's a reason we have a history of unwarranted respect for cops and military members. It's not because they always deserve it, but because you want them to feel like they do.
> When cops feel unwanted and disrespected they act accordingly. Strange, when service workers act that way, they either start pretending that they are helpful and respected, or they get fired. And as for cops, they've been useless for a very long time, certainly prior to the events of the past few years. The tantrum they throw every time they are subjected to any oversight is purely performative.
Majority of the service workers I encounter are royally pissed at the world so I'm not sure that checks out on my end. And it boggles my mind that someone can truly believe "cops are useless". Go found your own society and see how long you last without law enforcement.
Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
#497Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can replace the police force, nothing will change. When cops feel unwanted and disrespected they act accordingly. There's a reason we have a history of unwarranted respect for cops and military members. It's not because they always deserve it, but because you want them to feel like they do.
> When cops feel unwanted and disrespected they act accordingly. Strange, when service workers act that way, they either start pretending that they are helpful and respected, or they get fired. And as for cops, they've been useless for a very long time, certainly prior to the events of the past few years. The tantrum they throw every time they are subjected to any oversight is purely performative.
I'm genuinely curious, what do you propose to replace them with if anything at all?
Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
#498Reading this headline I thought to myself, this can't be possible. But then I remembered I got two packages stolen in two different neighborhood of the city, and during NYE someone broke the door of the backyard to probably see what they could steal there.
I thought the opposite. How can this not be at least a nationwide, if not worldwide reality? I live in the suburbs of Northern Utah. I’ve had bikes stolen from my yard, items stolen from my truck, money stolen from my wife’s purse, and those are just the one’s I can think of. We probably create millions of little opportunities in our lifetimes. A phone left unattended for a moment, neglecting to lock your car, leavin…
I've lived in a community where none of us lock our doors, bikes in the porch or driveway, and nothing gets stolen. That said, every city I've lived in, I've kept my doors locked and my belongings inside. I'm not sure what's wrong with our society that we feel like we need to take every precaution possible to avoid theft.
Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
#499Here's a good place to compare to other cities, if comparing is even a reasonable thing to do [1]. Sort by Total for Property Crime. Notably Albuquerque, Spokane, and Memphis have higher total property crime rates. But perhaps wouldn't make such an interesting headline for those in tech. Also notable that Orlando, FL is high on the list. But Irvine, CA and Tampa, FL are at the bottom of the list. Please also read the…
I mean this could also just be a list of how honest particular police departments are at reporting (or classifying) property crime. Not necessarily the actual rates.
Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
#500Earlier quoted context omitted.
> When cops feel unwanted and disrespected they act accordingly. Strange, when service workers act that way, they either start pretending that they are helpful and respected, or they get fired. And as for cops, they've been useless for a very long time, certainly prior to the events of the past few years. The tantrum they throw every time they are subjected to any oversight is purely performative.
I'm genuinely curious, what do you propose to replace them with if anything at all?
No need to replace them, I just want them to actually be legally held to at least the same standards the rest of us are. They routinely get away with assault and perjury, because they are in bed with both oversight bodies and the prosecutors. It's an insane conflict of interest that wouldn't be appropriate for a burger-flipper, let alone someone with a gun and a license to swing it around in people's faces.
I'll also point out that it's a really stupid idea to send an armed gunmen to do, say, a wellness check, but that's a marginal problem, not a root cause.