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Mcmaster.com is the best e-commerce site I've ever used

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Re: Mcmaster.com is the best e-commerce site I've ever used

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Eek I'm going to go against the grain here a little. That site is useful when you already know what you are looking for. For someone who's just browsing for something interesting to buy it's terrible. Obviously it's been made for exactly that purpose and does it well but for general e-commerce it's bad. The retailers are looking to send you to an area of their website with "stuff" you are interested in. For example y…

> For someone who's just browsing for something interesting to buy it's terrible

Maybe that's the core issue. How are people expecting to interact with the site?

I think when you're selling with an obvious B2B focus, the "value subtract" nature of a lot of consumer-targeting selling practices become clear.

There's no point trying to jump a B2B customer through a bunch of cross-sells and (poorly) related products, because there's a fair chance he doesn't even have the purchasing authority to add any of them.

If your search or filtering sucks, time is money, and they're going to go somewhere that respects that.

Maybe what retailers should be looking at is ways to break up the "browse" from the "focused buy" experience.

Instead of getting me in-cart for the browsing experience, build some external content. Instead of "here's a category of 3000 toys, start clicking", write up some high quality articles about different products, target markets, etc. with deep product links. Since you're curating the content, you have a chance to "conveniently" sort the products to promote what you want or whoever gives you a kickback for browsing customers, while not frustrating the "focused buy" customer with a deluge of EKTIBAQNN brand USB cable/fire-starters.

Re: Mcmaster.com is the best e-commerce site I've ever used

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> It's not like Americans don't occasionally need metric bolts. It’s becoming a lot more common than not in fact. Automobile industry for example is pretty heavy on using metric bolts / screws. It’s not a recent thing either, a 2004 F-250 I used to have had many (most?) bolts as metric.

This only helps the tool makers. I wrench on Japanese and European cars yet every toolset comes with Metric and SAE sets. It seems to only inflate the parts count without giving you more functionality. The SAE and Metric bits are practically interchangeable.

> yet every toolset comes with Metric and SAE sets

I’ve mostly only seen that really with jumbo cheap quality “Father’s Day gift” type tool sets. If you are buying good quality tools, SAE and Metric are most often sold separately in my experience.

Re: Mcmaster.com is the best e-commerce site I've ever used

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Alas, for some reason they only cater to the US market and have no presence in the EU, for example. So while it is possible to order from them, it's rather inconvenient as you need to deal with customs/taxes. Digi-Key got this right: you can order DDP, which makes things quick & simple. Incidentally, I am amazed that they don't have a meaningful competitor in the EU. It seems most companies here are stuck in the 80s…

> It seems most companies here are stuck in the 80s and dedicate next to zero effort to their web ordering process. I'm so glad we can order from mcmaster here in canada, even though shipping is two days and usually min 30 USD even for tiny orders. All local industrial suppliers are truly stuck in the 80s. They have a paper catalog, without prices (if you're lucky you can get a PDF too). If you want prices, you have…

>without prices

What in god’s name what!? How much business are they losing from that I wonder haha

Re: Mcmaster.com is the best e-commerce site I've ever used

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That kind of service must require tons of human intervention and employees who worked there for decades, no? I mean the catalog is humongous.

Knowing the customer’s order history reduces the search space in most cases.

NOICE

Didn’t think of that. Still damn impressive

Re: Mcmaster.com is the best e-commerce site I've ever used

#495
I interviewed there and got a job many years ago.

They are very smart. And weird. During my final round with the CTO I was waiting for him in his office on a couch. The couch was in a living room-like area of the office. After a few minutes of waiting I turned around. The CTO was sitting there staring at me; I've no idea for how lone. I stared back, then said "hi, I'm moeymo1. Are you Mr. X?" We started the interview.

They are conservative because the owners "like getting their dividend check and eating caviar" I was told. Apparently they tried to expand internationally in the 1970s when an employee wanted to move home and start a warehouse there. It turns out "home" was Iran, and the warehouse and its contents were seized after the revolution. That apparently put them off international expansion for a very long time.

They can pay big bonuses like financial firms. I didn't take the offer because they were too odd. Years later I ran into a woman that used to work there. Apparently they are super, um, not nice to women, at the exec level. She left for Grainger.

Re: Mcmaster.com is the best e-commerce site I've ever used

#496

McMaster is great. This article is also completely glossing over another reason to use them: Their shipping is somehow insanely fast. Almost everything is next-day delivery, even for standard shipping. They've somehow got their logistics COMPLETELY nailed. I believe they have their own agreements with USPS/FedEx/etc... McMaster is generally not the cheapest, but they're almost always the fastest and the easiest. Mach…

I didn't write about shipping speed since the Amazon standard is now 2 days or less. Yes their shipping speed is great, but it isn't a striking relative advantage, comparing against the rest of e-commerce

Re: Mcmaster.com is the best e-commerce site I've ever used

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> hierarchical On the point of hierarchy they are messing up their categories: mcmaster.com/raw-materials/ Hovering over the links in that category, you get links such as: mcmaster.com/raw-materials/foam But clicking "foam" takes you to: mcmaster.com/foam/ and there's no link back to raw-materials. This is a mistake. They've booted you out of the hierarchy and neglect to offer breadcrumbs or equivalent category navig…

The issue is that their products don't fit into a neat hierarchy. Yes foams can be raw materials, but they can also be packing material, or insulation, or liners, or safety equipment. Similarly, polyurethane foam and stainless steel are both raw materials but no one thinks of them as the same thing, nor is there often a need to navigate easily between the two. As for the urls, just having it be the part number is sup…

> foams can be raw materials, but they can also be packing material

That's what sub-categories are for:

/foam/packaging/wrap or /foam/sound-absorbing/countoured

Hardware isn't some special case to abandon hierarchy. Hardware is perfectly suited to neat categories.

The site dips its toe into categories, but goes no deeper than /foam, even though it clearly lists about 20 foam categories. Each of those can be clicked, but the URL remains /foam. I highly doubt this is by design.

You mentioned packing foam. What if you wanted to send a link to your colleague showing all the packing foam this site offered? You can't do it easily. The best you can do at first glance, is send them to /foam and tell them to scroll down to "packaging and shipping" where 7 sub-categories of packing foam are listed.

There actually is a way to get the link to packaging foam, but you have to use the search bar to type it in manually. But don't press enter! You'll get taken somewhere else if you press enter, you must choose from the drop-down.

Amusingly, the site search doesn't want to respect my search term. When I search for "pickles" it takes me to "picks and pullers". What it should do is tell me it has no matches for pickles, but offer a suggestion.

Anyway, all good.. it's nice and fast and no doubt much loved site for parts pickers who know the part they want.

Re: Mcmaster.com is the best e-commerce site I've ever used

#498
I don't fully agree with the slider the author is sugegsting.

If my price range is 21 - 45, I don't want to fiddle with a double tick slider dragging it pixelwise to get to the exact numbers I want. Not everyone has perfect hand and mouse dexterity to move it a couple of pixels. Not some senior citizens. It's easier and faster for me to enter two numbers or just one number for the max. I don't need to enter a min number. Plus Amazon is already showing some popular ranges. I think

Re: Mcmaster.com is the best e-commerce site I've ever used

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I'll second that. I ordered an 8-foot-long aluminum bar for $25, which, at the time, was too long to ship with traditional shippers. So, a semi trailer showed up at my door. Shipping cost $8.

Might I ask what for?

Art project to repurpose an IKEA lamp in to kinetic wall art.

Re: Mcmaster.com is the best e-commerce site I've ever used

#500
post #145

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I'll second that. I ordered an 8-foot-long aluminum bar for $25, which, at the time, was too long to ship with traditional shippers. So, a semi trailer showed up at my door. Shipping cost $8.

How can they make money doing that?

No idea. I talked with the truck driver, and he said we was being paid way more than $8 for the delivery. I used my company account, so I guess they're willing to take a loss on some orders and make it up on others.
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