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Yes, but you also really need Postgres and that's now an extra $9/month too. $0 -> $16
Heroku Dyno + free cochroachdb instance, reasonable enough
Removal of Heroku free product plans
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Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans
#492TBH I'm surprised that it took this long to move to this! Back when Heroku first arrived, PaaS was a new idea. It was available ~2009, well before services like AWS Lambda existed. This was such a paradigm shift that no one knew what to think of it. It takes time to build trust around such a big shift. The best way to do this is to offer to try it for free. Hence, the Free Tier. People tried it, and were blown away b…
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#494The public roadmap is a good idea but highlights how stale the product has become. https://github.com/heroku/roadmap/issues Only now researching adding Cloud Native Build Packs and HTTP2. This will reaffirm for many the sense that Heroku is being dismantled from within. Feature sunsetting and removal of a free on-ramp doesn't help. If you're looking for a production alternative to Heroku checkout Northflank. https://…
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#495So their next chapter is obscurity followed by shutting down? It was clear even before their horribly bungled GitHub security incident that Heroku was on life support at best and it's been a long time since "Heroku" was the answer to "What PaaS should I use?". The beancounters took control a while back and are sucking all they can out of it before they discard it's empty shell. Having Heroku as your PaaS provider see…
What is the PaaS people use today? Just big cloud is too powerful or are there still niche companies that make life easy for startups like Heroku used to?
Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans
#496We're a large Heroku user currently spending $10-20k/month. This change may lead us to switching to another platform. We host a lot of individual apps, many that only need free tier DBs and Redis. This change will roughly double the cost of a basic app on pro dynos + DB + redis, from $25/m to $49/m, with no additional benefit. Heroku is already very expensive. $25/m for 512MB RAM is laughable. At $49/m we could get a…
> We host a lot of individual apps, many that only need free tier DBs and Redis.
I saw a lot of this, and while it's certainly not abuse it was - to my mind - a failure to turn Heroku's multi-tenant DB services into a real product.
Obviously it's not free to provide free services, but because they are "free" they don't get the same treatment and respect. Over time, these free or "hobby" services end up underpinning real production workloads such as SaaS providers using them for low-usage tenants of their own services, or for critical infrastructure stuff like review apps.
Tons of work goes into making those hobby redis and postgres plans work smoothly, abstracting away the complexity involved. If only someone were to put a customer-facing UI and API in front of that, and charge for it - so that you could pay one fixed price for a service that let you host as many DB tenants as you can fit on it, isolated from any other customers? It wouldn't be free, but it would be a killer feature.
It's a pity I don't see anything like that on the roadmap! Oh well, maybe someone else will do it first.
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#497Not sure how Heroku is hoping to attract new customers without a free tier ? Do they think their reputation will suffice?
Salesforce reputation? Have you worked with their ecosystem? Their pardot marketing platform van only use date fields in YYYYMMDD, no way to convert this to a European format. And i can drum up like a 100 of these insane things we have to work with on a daily basis. I work in the Salesforce ecosystem, and love my job but funny enough I fucking hate Salesforce in so many ways.
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#498I use their free tiers and store all the static files on IPFS (pinned for free with web3.storage) and accessed over the cloudfront ipfs gateway which cached pretty well
I used to pay Heroku for my hobby and not fully fleshed out ideas. But now I do everything they offered for free! (well. don't really have a free memcache and database solution, but I just stopped doing system designs that included those, and disqualified ideas that needed them)
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Ah yes, because a company that decides to stop giving away its time and resources for free is now a "villain". Right.
Mate, this was a joke. I hope that came across. I've been a paying member of heroku for nearly a decade, and pay them $1000s of my personal income monthly. I think their product has been brilliant. I just defended them yesterday in a HN comment. I do, however, use their free tier to test things daily. This news puts me in a bind. It's work that I hadn't planned, and I only have 3 months to find a solution for it when…
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Please let me know in the replies what you'd like to see at Fly that would make it as good, if not better, than Heroku. I recently started working at Fly to focus on making Rails & Ruby app deployments awesome, and of course Heroku set that benchmark almost a decade ago. I can't promise I'll get to everything, but I can promise that it will help me better prioritize what I should be focusing on to make Fly better for…
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