Now I am genuinely curious why I have the psychological impulse to immediately think to myself "disaster" whenever I see one of these folding screens. I guess I have Samsung to thank for that. And I doubt I am alone in this sentiment. Good on Asus for making bold moves. I've got one of their laptops as my primary machine for the last couple of years and it has been as reliable as the best of them.
Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED
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#492Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I say this as a former Android user who loved touting that "Android had that feature first", but it's hard to deny that features like mobile payments have just been executed better by Apple. This, but like 10x. It's like most non-Apple manufacturers just bash shit together without ever looking whether it even works and then lose interest in 1 or 2 generations. Apple eventually comes along and uses the technology to…
Apple is still far behind on pro tablet game. I had an iPad Pro and it was extremely clunky to use. Multitasking is a mess with three different systems to learn [1], people resort to bizarre hacks to get the keyboard to work at different angles [2], the app ecosystem is still lacking, etc. Sure it fits some people's use cases, but you could say that about the Asus and Samsung folding screen products too. The idea tha…
Their market share and their pro customers (artists, photographers, videographers, and more) would all disagree.
Seriously, when was the last time you saw someone actually use an android table for anything professional other than in a cheap point-of-sale terminal?
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#493Earlier quoted context omitted.
How do you define "massive hit"? That article cited an estimate of 9M foldable smartphones being sold in 2021 - compared to 1.4B total smartphone sales last year (~1.12B just looking at Android). That's less than 1%, no?
You should compare them to the ultra premium category. These devices aren't competing with the massive majority of cheap androids. Given that Samsung sold around 20-25 million S21s, it is absolutely a massive hit.
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#494Cool design, but absolutely never buying an Asus product again. Every single product I've bought from them (router, motherboard, monitor, etc) has broken, and their support system is an absolute nightmare.
That seems very strange, in particular since you appear to suggest you bought so many of them. I mean, what are the odds? I think you're simply using them wrong or handling them carelessly.
Unbelievable.
A $400 Asus router I bought had a broken 2.4ghz band, was that 'using [it] wrong'? I had a motherboard fry itself, do you think I was in there 'mishandling' the motherboard? An Asus monitor I bought would periodically shut off and not turn on again unless you physically unplugged and plugged it back in, a faulty power circuit that I found many others having issue with.
Your comment is rude and gaslighting.
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... you need to manually fix it for Windows? Does it ship with Linux or something? Edit: Great read - and your your enthusiasm for the device is getting me interested in it, but what an incredible software shit show. Imagine spending millions on hardware R&D only to release a product that's unusable due to terrible software. Why do manufacturers keep doing this?
> Edit: Great read - and your your enthusiasm for the device is getting me interested in it Just get one - it's hard to live without it now!! > but what an incredible software shit show. Microsoft didn't deliver the OS they were supposed to (bad) but Windows 11 is everything and more (good) Intel... well, it's Intel. If you go into plane mode before suspend and play with the device manager to restart the device when…
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#496I find this potentially intriguing for my use case, which is 95% working from home in a fixed office arrangement. Under those circumstances, if this can drive two external monitors, I could have the best of both worlds- a big third monitor for my primary work situation, but then it's the same device but mobile when I need to go into the office etc.
In what sense is a 17" monitor "big"? It's barely any larger than a lot of regular laptop screens.
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#497Folding tech for phones wasn't quite as interesting, just a small cherry on top of something we already accommodate. Fine. But folding tech for 17" screens is amazing because of how massive those screens are. They are completely unwieldy in the normal unfolding form factor, unlikely to fit in your backpack.
50k 16" MacBook users at my company would disagree with you...
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That figure doesn't make sense other than from a marketing perspective. It is missing all the important engineering questions... How many did they test? What's the standard deviation? What does the bell curve look like? What are the test conditions? What happens when you put this in the hands of an average user who does not conform to the test conditions?
Please show me this data from any other manufacturer... take Apple, do they put out how many drops they test their latest iPhone, the one that they advertise doesn't need a cover? The standard deviation, Bell curve? Nobody cares about this - what people care about is: What happens when this breaks ? If Asus offers good warranty on it, why does it matter when it breaks??
Uhh, they don't do that. They sell cases - their own and 3rd party - right in the store next to the iPhones.
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Apple is still far behind on pro tablet game. I had an iPad Pro and it was extremely clunky to use. Multitasking is a mess with three different systems to learn [1], people resort to bizarre hacks to get the keyboard to work at different angles [2], the app ecosystem is still lacking, etc. Sure it fits some people's use cases, but you could say that about the Asus and Samsung folding screen products too. The idea tha…
> Apple is still far behind on pro tablet game Their market share and their pro customers (artists, photographers, videographers, and more) would all disagree. Seriously, when was the last time you saw someone actually use an android table for anything professional other than in a cheap point-of-sale terminal?