I dont like the idea of replacing the time spend compulsively procrastinating with "learning a new language, getting a pet, going to the gym" is the right way. I see the root cause (for me atleast (used to read HN and blogs for 4 hours everyday)) is that i cant stand being with myself. During the last two months ive been trying to not panic when i'm idle. And not take out my phone or read the nearest material i can l…
Once you realize that idle brain time is when actual creative problem solving occurs without you conscious of it then its easier to let go. I definitely feel fine just staring out of a train window rather than my phone knowing this.
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#492Earlier quoted context omitted.
They're just cliche ideas for how to fill the time. Anyone one who tries to break an addiction suddenly finds themselves with a lot of free time they don't know how to fill. But on that note, have multiple kids AND get a pet. You'll never have a free minute again.
I would strongly argue against having kids as a solution for any of life‘s problems. Kids are an incredibly demanding venture and can exacerbate existing problems. Speaking from experience here.
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Glad it works for you but I don't think taking "party drugs" on a daily basis is a good long-term idea
That's an unfair and incredibly dangerous description of ADHD medications. First off there are multiple types of ADHD drugs. I presume you are referring to stimulant drugs which are the most commonly prescribed for ADHD, but there are many non-stimulant drugs available for ADHD particular in the USA. Second stimulants are only party drugs if you abuse them. At prescribed doses they're very safe long term, so long as…
Anecdotally, green tea or just L-theanine extracted from it helps. Even mild euphoria is unwelcome as it can reposition dopamine (and possibly serotonin) baseline and lower effects from following doses.
> plenty of evidence to suggest that the end effect of stimulants is different for many with ADHD and that they're less likely to abuse them due to this.
Unmedicated ADHD person is even more likely to seek dopamine hits and get addicted. We are commenting a post titled "I'm an addict" which seems to be written by someone undiagnosed (I'm not a specialist).
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#494Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't disagree with this but the constant state of being "plugged in" is the issue. Mind wandering is a real useful practice and the being plugged in is antithetical to mind wandering. Some of my most clearest thoughts, ideas, or beliefs came to me when I was just walking on the street not listening to podcasts, audio books, music or browsing social media. I think it's far more useful to literally stare at a wall f…
It sounds like you're already approaching this idea on your own, but if you haven't checked it out already you should have a look at Digital Minimalism [1]. It's a really well thought out analysis of exactly what you're describing. In theory, a few hours here and there shouldn't be an issue. However, the main problem with modern media (social and otherwise) is that it is very insidious. It's not just about the time s…
One thing I enjoyed about Four Thousand Weeks was the story how people viewed work 100s and thousands of years ago, how whatever you didn't finish that day, you had time tomorrow to continue; I think this is a useful idea because modern society feels so "rushed" over work that isn't exactly useful. Also the idea of JOMO (joy of missing out); it was just a new heuristic introduced to me. We make choices all the time, we neglect doing things all the time. It's just a part of life, missing out on things means enjoying others It sounds like it's more stressful but it's not, at least how the book describes this.
With Stolen Focus, I was a fan of the author's interview about his other book "Lost Connections" when he appeared on an episode of econtalk [1]. I won't say much else about Stolen Focus, except his tips on what he does to lessen the nodge toward social media is what I now do as well.
[1] https://www.econtalk.org/johann-hari-on-lost-connections/
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#495Knowing that HN is generally against it, I say it anyway: I recommend religion and religious teachings which address this and many other daily worldly issues perfectly. Christianity and Judaism both have excellent resources. Religious scholars have actually been the best psychologists but are generally dismissed by non-believers. Edit: for those asking for specific recommendations. It’s always best to find your own p…
Nothing quite like fear of eternal damnation to motivate oneself.
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#496Earlier quoted context omitted.
Generic name: methamphetamine hydrochloride Ummmm??? Maybe not a best first step to working on ADHD Problems...
No medication is ever the best first step but it's often a necessary one.
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#497My ADHD alarms were going off right as I saw this. It is exactly how I characterized my struggles with ADHD too. If anything, I have had a point in my life when I would have written this exact same post. I have since found some reasonable solutions without medication. So, I'll post some of them here.
> Getting over it: Besides blanket ban on all things video and social media, I don't think I have a better solution
If I was a betting man, I'd bet against this working,
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Recommendations:
1. Don't fight your base state. If hedonism and continuous stimulation is what you are. That's fine. I literally walk around with a podcast on at all times and I watch ALL my YT subscriptions everyday. It is more wasteful to spend an entire day fighting off those urges, than to just do them in one go and get them out of the way. Those blockers/procrastination-extensions never help. I have tried. It only makes me more miserable.
2. ADHD people do a lot better with external deadlines than internal deadlines. Make small-tangible (about 50% of your capacity) daily commitments. If a task takes longer than 1 day, break it down until it seems like a '1 day' task. Communicate it in a formal settings (standups), and just like that, the fire under my proverbial butt, lights up.
3. Post-covid there is no such thing as weird working hours. If the wave of productivity hits you at 8pm, so be it. Traditional hours don't work for you, and trying to follow them will only make you more miserable. Just make sure you get your sleep and food on time.
4. Learn to give up and ask for help. ADHD people also tend to be perfectionists with weirdly strong ethics around commitments in the worst way possible. If the task has become an albatross around your neck, then ask for help. Pair program, have a white boarding session or plain old ask someone else to do it. If your rigid ethical system is blocking something critical, then it's better to be humble and move on.
5. Channel procrastination productive directions. I am known in my friends group for being the most resourceful person with encyclopedic knowledge about absolutely random things. Guess how I learned that? It has helped facilitate relationships and I get to stay at the top of my 'learning' by procrastinating. Another awesome way of procrastinating is unblocking your peers, my ADHD brain loves it. Sometimes I will use procrastination to build out the helper-package I had been planning for weeks or cleaning up old code. Not ideal, but better than nothing.
6. Do something you love. ADHD people above all, cannot do mind-numbing work. I changed my entire career direction to be in something that I loved instead of liked, and it has paid off big time. When work feels like procrastination, it is easier to finish work.
7. Pick up a deeply exhausting hobby. Drums are an amazing way for me to decompress if the ADHD side is peaking too much. I bang the living daylights out of that thing for 20 minutes, and it clears my mind up for easier work. Progmetal serves a similar use-case for me. ________
I am yet to figure out if I should get medications. I have self-medicated with a lot of coffee, but am scared of going any farther with real medication. I personally will wait until an adverse life event before choosing medication as a necessary solution. However, a few of my ADHD peers swear that they would not be able to function in society without their drugs. So yeah, maybe try some medication and things might just work out.
Lastly, watching normal people give ADHD folks recommendations is some of the most hilarious stuff ever. They simply can't fathom the complete lack of self-agency that's so central to being ADHD person.
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My procrastination creds: (odd flex but OK)
* 100k comment karma on reddit (no memes) * 5k comment karma on HN (pure brute force) * 3 hrs/day YT videos watched on average (most of it is podcasts in downtime) * Medically diagnosed with ADHD * Was the most restless kid I've seen (undiagnosed till adulthood) * Was called 'smart, but the biggest nuisance I've had in a classroom' by professor (easter egg)
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#498Sounds like OP isn't necessarily an addict: they have ADHD. Half the article was them complaining about poor working memory, and the rest about getting stimulation/dopamine from unhealthy sources. Everyone has "a little ADHD". We all occasionally , forget things, hyperfocus on things we are excited about, etc. ADHD is the disorder of having those struggles so often it's debilitating. It stems from having an underdeve…
I was exactly like OP for 2 years. I was in therapy talking about it that whole time, to no result whatsoever. Then I got on Wellbutrin and literally ten days later all of that behavior just completely ended, and I returned to taking care of important shit and being productive. No willpower required. I just suddenly felt compelled to do different things. Just saying. Wellbutrin is known to fuck with dopamine, presuma…
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#499We're all being sucked in the internet. It's so easy to become addict to video, podcasts, games, etc. nowadays that I would not be surprised if that becomes a major society issue.
The problem I have is that some of the content is really good. I have been able to lose weight consistently and easily because I found resources online that helped me understand the science and cut through all the bullshit that we are inundated with around nutrition. My confidence and results in investing are at an all time high because I can fill in the gaps of understanding with a range of experts on YouTube. But,…
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As a non-unitedstatian, the entirety of reddit seems super right wing to me. You deserve free universal medical care.
A considerable chunk of the left-wing in the US would be considered right-wing almost anywhere else, so it's no surprise a non-American would see it that way (seeing how the majority of Reddit users are American)
Also good to keep in mind that the US core Democratic party platform is only able to purport positions that have a reasonable chance of winning over some of the moderate right wing in the country. They're constrained by whatever the moderate right thinks (for better or worse)