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Career advice nobody gave me: Never ignore a recruiter

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Re: Career advice nobody gave me: Never ignore a recruiter

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To me all you’ve described is a professional network with strong and weak ties.

The difference is the intention behind the relationship I suppose. I don't think it matters if we disagree, it was an off the cuff statement. I see a difference, I consider it important. No one else has to.

I'm with you mate. Surprised how many jimmies were rustled by this.

Re: Career advice nobody gave me: Never ignore a recruiter

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There are so many comments from people who report being inundated on LinkedIn by recruiters. I don't have a LinkedIn account, and I _never_ hear from recruiters. My name is out there; I'm on other developer-centric social networks and generally have no compunction about giving out my email address and phone number, and I literally don't have this problem. I have over a decade of experience in many different software engineering roles, so I assume I would be a plum prize for unscrupulous recruiters. (I used to receive messages like these, but they dropped off around 2013. I assume this is roughly the point that recruiters realized that they could focus on LinkedIn to maximize their conversion.)

So, serious question: why do you have a LinkedIn account? I know there is theoretical benefit in maintaining connections to professional acquaintances, but in sticking to email and a few alumni Slack channels, I have never felt limited in that department. What is the benefit of your LinkedIn account and why do you keep it?

Re: Career advice nobody gave me: Never ignore a recruiter

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Strong disagree. I've made it my policy to never work with a recruiter that isn't affiliated with the company they're hiring for. Recruiting farms like Cyber Recruiters (yuck) will do everything in their power to waste your time out of sheer incompetence and disinterest. I've "doubled" my salary plenty of times through this policy. But the real secret sauce is referrals. Companies always prioritize a strong referral,…

Agreed - this is insane for software engineers to follow. Especially right now.

Re: Career advice nobody gave me: Never ignore a recruiter

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There are so many comments from people who report being inundated on LinkedIn by recruiters. I don't have a LinkedIn account, and I _never_ hear from recruiters. My name is out there; I'm on other developer-centric social networks and generally have no compunction about giving out my email address and phone number, and I literally don't have this problem. I have over a decade of experience in many different software…

Because at some point we had to look for our current job

Re: Career advice nobody gave me: Never ignore a recruiter

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There are so many comments from people who report being inundated on LinkedIn by recruiters. I don't have a LinkedIn account, and I _never_ hear from recruiters. My name is out there; I'm on other developer-centric social networks and generally have no compunction about giving out my email address and phone number, and I literally don't have this problem. I have over a decade of experience in many different software…

Because it made looking for a job almost effortless. I'm not terrible at whiteboarding but I hate doing it so I just kept letting recruiters contact me and sending back a generic response asking for info until I found one that sounded fun, paid well, and didn't whiteboard.

Re: Career advice nobody gave me: Never ignore a recruiter

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What is the difference between luck and privilege?

I'm hoping your question isn't serious but just in case you don't know the difference between the two: Luck - success or failure apparently brought by chance rather than through one's own actions. Privilege - a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group. Hope this is helpful

Well, “interest in programming” sounds to be like a special advantage in the current world; why do you think it’s not a privilege? It might even be genetic!

(Not to mention that you also need the privilege of being born relatively smart.)

Re: Career advice nobody gave me: Never ignore a recruiter

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Do you have hard data to back that up or is it just anecdotal personal bristling whenever someone says "privilege"?

Real tech people don't blather. Yeah, I know, that's not "hard data". It's a pretty consistent pattern, though. Tech people have to be able to communicate with precision; they usually don't do "blowing smoke".

We also know that most (99%) of people aren’t like that. So while I’ll communicate straight, efficiently, “with precision” with other tech people, I’ll adapt a nice “professional, formal” style for most other business communications.

Is this unusual?

Re: Career advice nobody gave me: Never ignore a recruiter

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Not sure if you're just calling blockchain development meaningless work in general, or referencing proof-of-work, which refers to meaningless computation done for blockchain security despite the unnecessary wastefulness. If you're referencing the latter, maybe it's worth pointing out that all the blockchains using Rust (or the popular ones anyway) are proof of stake.

Still arguably not the most meaningful use of storage space

Is it meaningful for you if I store petabytes of hentai on my disks?

Re: Career advice nobody gave me: Never ignore a recruiter

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post #352

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Check out http://intelx.io , depending on your risk tolerances, putting your email and phone number in yet another search bar may not be in the cards. If you can swallow it though, depending if (1) anything you care about has been leaked at all and (2) anything you care about being leaked has been indexed by this site...the results may be illuminating. Or nothing at all. Interesting resource nonetheless that suppleme…

How do you put a phone number in? It rejects mine.

Using E.164 international phone number formatting works. E.g. +14155551212.

Re: Career advice nobody gave me: Never ignore a recruiter

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These days I just never answer the actual phone for anyone. I don’t even bother to look who is calling.

A scenario I hadn't thought about, that you might want to be aware of: I had to call 911 recently. I talked to the dispatcher, and hung up. A few minutes later they called me back to give me instructions. The call showed up as a regular Los Angeles 323 area code number. In fact, it was flagged by my phone as spam. It made me wonder whether reverse 911[1] calls, which are used to warn about hazmat situations, fire eva…

I quite honestly think that general direct-dial telephony is only a few years from catastrophic collapse, not for technical reasons, but because people will simply defect from the system.

There are too many nuisance calls, there are too many people (and businesses) falling for scams, and there seems to be nothing telcos or governments are willing to do about it.

It's pretty much the same thing that's happened to Usenet and Email (and is now happening to the Web as well). John Gilmore's lament about crackdowns on open email relays is heartfelt, but ultimately naive. If I'm remembering correctly (and I'm probably not), it ran something like: We created a way for anyone anywhere in the world to talk to anyone else, and it wasn't an accident. The problem is of course, bad actors, and lowering costs means enabling vastly more bad actors.

Figuring out how to impose highly asymmetric costs --- and not necessarily financial ones --- on unwanted communication attempts, will win this.

The technical problem is reasonably straightforward. Generating widespread adoption is the real challenge, IMO.

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