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Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by SllX »

wolverine876 wrote: post #483
SllX wrote: post #473

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, yes they do. I listed three examples of what a government granted monopoly looks like. Copyright, trademark and patents don’t exist naturally, and they’re unenforceable without the Rule of Law. > What are you referring to? Most recently (that I can think of): the suit the Feds filed against Facebook that was tossed out of court.

Those are temporary monopolies of a technology or creative work, not monopolies of a market.

That’s not a useful distinction. Market monopolies, if they exist, where they exist, are usually tied into those same government granted monopolies. Facebook the bare bones public domain Technology stack is a lot less valuable to investors than Facebook the service on the Facebook servers presented to Facebook account holders on Facebook’s private servers at Facebook.com paid for with Ad revenue generated by Facebook’s copyrighted (and maybe partially patented?) adtech and backed by Sales Reps on Facebook’s payroll.

And despite all of that, they’re probably still not a monopoly for anything (haven’t heard a convincing argument on this one yet!), at least anywhere the DoJ and FTC have jurisdiction.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by t-writescode »

generalEvie wrote: post #185
JamesLeonis wrote: post #48

My 2¢; OP should do a charge-back. If anything bots don't do chargebacks. While you have no recourse in free services, you do when you pay with a credit card. Likewise the CC will still charge Tinder the processing fee of 1%-3%, so every chargeback is not only revenue lost but also a cost. Unfortunately all that advice is void if OP used a debit card.

While attempting a chargeback can be good advice, be very wary if you paid for the service via Google / Apple.

if paid via Apple, ask Apple directly. I've gotten subscriptions refunded for Match.com's dark patterns, for example.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by caminante »

goblin89 wrote: post #433
caminante wrote: post #165

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After checking reality, online dating's the #1 way people meet, and its market share (>50%) is growing. [0] [1] [0] https://news.stanford.edu/2019/08/21/online-dating-popular-w... [1] https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/02/06/10-facts-ab...

To save someone a click, so there is a study indicating 40% of couples “met online” (so via Twitter, IG, HN, Reddit, gaming, WhatsApp groups, etc., not necessarily dating apps); and then a study specifically about online dating apps where most participants were recruited online (in addition to the usual selection bias) so I didn’t bother checking results. Both are US-centric.

>To save someone a click,

And yet you admit

>I didn’t bother checking results. Both are US-centric.

...

You need to let the Stanford Professor and Pew Research know they're unqualified to perform research. :S

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by Karsteski »

webdoodle wrote: post #139
999900000999 wrote: post #106

By far the best part is they didn't automatically cancel his subscription. What a horrible company, if you've banned my account that's fine but cancel the subscription and refund my money. If y'all haven't looked at it yet, read up on the FCC's filing against Match. They knowingly prompt up tons of fake profiles, to get you engaged. Horrifically this has lead to romance scams being the number one source of fraud in t…

To take it a step further, throw your phone away. I've been digital overseer/fear machine free for almost 2 years now, and can definitively say it's the best decision a person can make for their mental well being.

I feel like I achieved this by using a degoogled Android OS + never listening to news. My life is certainly a lot more pleasant being more or less entirely detached from mainstream social media and media in general.

But I'm glad your decision worked out for you :)

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Post by qq4 »

jimnotgym wrote: post #192
bigwheeler wrote: post #129

I just lost my IG account after having it for literally a decade. Short story: I thought my engagement was low, so I manually went through my not-very-large follower list (2400 or so) in the IG app, identified about 100 accounts that I thought were bots (accounts that were following 6000+ people), and then went to each one and removed them as a follower. I made it about 40 in when suddenly I got meaningless errors, l…

It is time these services were treated like a utility. If my energy supplier screws me around I can contact the regulator.

Why should Instagram, a FREE social networking site where you share pictures and videos be a utility?! There are countless ways to accomplish the same thing, including email and text, both of which are also (thankfully) not utilities.

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Post by dbingham »

adolph wrote: post #414
dbingham wrote: post #387

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A democratically elected government. Look, there is no such thing as a "natural market" that can keep the power of the actors in it in check. The internet was the closest thing to a perfect market that has ever existed and all it has produced is overpowered monopoly after overpowered monopoly. If we want a free society, we don't get that by handing power over to the markets. We get that by building the most responsiv…

In the US, "People, elected and held accountable by citizenry at large" found that banks were "too big to fail." They did not restrain "the power of the actors in [the market] in check." What makes you think it'll be different this time?

The US is not a good example of a functioning democracy. Our federal representatives have to represent 700,000 people. The state legislatures get to shape the federal districts, which means the representatives effictively get to pick their voters instead of the other way around. Our senate is grossly undemocratic, giving each state two representatives regardless of population, leading to minority rule. And our presidential election system is expressly anti-democratic.

There are lots of good examples of better functioning democracies and a fair amount of theory on reforms that could improve even those (things like ranked choice voting).

That's why I said "Build the most responsive democracy we can".

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Post by renox »

Invictus0 wrote: post #342
cultofmetatron wrote: post #310

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People can't handle truth and I'd rather not be downvoted to oblivion. Suffice to say, the american dating market is heavily geared towards attractive white men over 6 ft tall. They better also be a millionaire if you're in the bay area. I'd suggest traveling like I have to southeast Asia, Europe and latin America for extended periods of time and see for yourself.

What you're actually saying is that you are unable to compete in the American dating market, and so you're moving to other less competitive dating markets where you might be more highly valued. Obviously since this is HN we can't consider the female perspective, but if we consider the female perspective, the American dating market is probably pretty good because it offers a great number of attractive white men over 6…

It's not specific to the USA, in France the situation is the same, most of the young women want the 'alpha male' so if you're not one, you have to wait until you're older..

It made being young much less pleasant than it ought to be, plus it means that we were a bit old when we had children..

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Post by newsbinator »

netizen-936824 wrote: post #388
999900000999 wrote: post #106

By far the best part is they didn't automatically cancel his subscription. What a horrible company, if you've banned my account that's fine but cancel the subscription and refund my money. If y'all haven't looked at it yet, read up on the FCC's filing against Match. They knowingly prompt up tons of fake profiles, to get you engaged. Horrifically this has lead to romance scams being the number one source of fraud in t…

>if you're staring at your phone constantly waiting for box to message you I may be unfamiliar with the terminology, but can you please explain what this means? What is "box" in this context?

A Tinder message box as opposed to a conversation with a real life person?

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by LorenPechtel »

juancn wrote: post #279
29083011397778 wrote: post #194

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Considering Tinder rather explicitly checks your location to find people around you? I'd assume it wouldn't work, and might even lead to getting banned faster.

Root the phone and fake the location.

What's the point? They're not looking for people in Korea.
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