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Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by alin23 »

blacksmith_tb wrote: post #333
greggman3 wrote: post #315

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It could be worse. You could be on MacOS where Cmd-Tab switches between apps not windows. I currently have 13 browser windows open (each with 3 to 15 tabs) and another 9 windows of other things (terminal, vscode, etc....) and IMO The Cmd-Tab vs Ctrl-Tab vs Ctrl-Up vs Ctrl-Down suck compared to Windows. I really want to easily switch to the previous window, not the previous app. Command + backtick doesn't work either.…

Hmm, I find it pretty practical, cmd-tab from one app to another, cmd-backtick to toggle between windows, I mean, it's a different paradigm, sure, but you can still move around from the keyboard? I do find it a little annoying that there aren't consistent shortcuts for moving between tabs in everything that uses them, could be cntrl-tab, could be alt-arrows...

I found Cmd-Tab to be too slow for me after coming from Windows where I used Win+number.

I had to create a new app to scratch that itch: https://lowtechguys.com/rcmd

I think the consistent shortcuts for switching between tabs are Cmd-Shift-[ and Cmd-Shift-]

It worked in all applications I used so far.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by cookiengineer »

pjfin123 wrote: post #33

Linux Desktop feeling extra good today, my sound often doesn't work but I don't have to deal with Microsoft nonsense.

Install pavucontrol, you won't regret it. Best pulseaudio gui, and makes problems easily fixable with one or two clicks.

It shows all active streams per application and lets you choose the correct input and output devices and streams, which makes mic and monitor devices easy to use.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by eyelidlessness »

Prophasi wrote: post #450
blacksmith_tb wrote: post #333

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Hmm, I find it pretty practical, cmd-tab from one app to another, cmd-backtick to toggle between windows, I mean, it's a different paradigm, sure, but you can still move around from the keyboard? I do find it a little annoying that there aren't consistent shortcuts for moving between tabs in everything that uses them, could be cntrl-tab, could be alt-arrows...

I don't love it (yet). It's probably a combo of my Windows background, my ignorance of MacOS tricks, and actual limitations/flaws. * Cmd+~ from a fullscreen window does nothing, and non-full windows of the app cycle only among each other. If I have fullscreen windows anywhere in my setup, it breaks my flow and (afaik) makes me mouse to the Window menu. I feel like MacOS's fullscreen paradigm is more to blame here, be…

You’re totally right that fullscreen breaks cmd ~. It also breaks cmd tab in unexpected ways.

You’re also right about lack of visual feedback, which is disappointing given the various stuff that I think is still currently branded Mission Control, where obviously the fundamentals are already there.

Cmd ~ isn’t statically ordered though, it’s either application specific or based on recent use in a weird (easy to confuse) heuristic. It follows a similar (maybe identical?) pattern to recent use for cmd tab, and even app switching on iOS.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by collin128 »

greggman3 wrote: post #315
jccalhoun wrote: post #114

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I updated to 11 on my laptop but kept 10 on my main machine. I see zero reason to update my main computer to 11. I was willing to give centered start button a try but the fact that you can't turn off grouping of applications in the taskbar is a deal breaker. If I have two firefox windows open I want to know it and to be able to pick which one I want without having to hover my mouse over the icon for a second while th…

It could be worse. You could be on MacOS where Cmd-Tab switches between apps not windows. I currently have 13 browser windows open (each with 3 to 15 tabs) and another 9 windows of other things (terminal, vscode, etc....) and IMO The Cmd-Tab vs Ctrl-Tab vs Ctrl-Up vs Ctrl-Down suck compared to Windows. I really want to easily switch to the previous window, not the previous app. Command + backtick doesn't work either.…

When I first switched to Mac I absolutely hated the way the OS handle the alt tab function.

Now I'm a big fan and find it disorienting to go back to Windows but I've been here for 10 years. CMD + ~ all the way.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by antifa »

josephcsible wrote: post #432
userbinator wrote: post #426

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Don't let the "security" FUD scare you. I bet 99% of malware infections are from people running stuff they should know better than to. Turn off all listening services, use a firewall, and keep JS off by default. I can't wait to see how many new exploits are introduced by all the new features of Win11 which are in a seemingly half-done state... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28404332

Are you seriously calling security patches FUD? This is the worst advice I've ever heard on HN.

Like the other user said, we've entered an age where the "security update" is the malware.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by collin128 »

Prophasi wrote: post #450
blacksmith_tb wrote: post #333

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm, I find it pretty practical, cmd-tab from one app to another, cmd-backtick to toggle between windows, I mean, it's a different paradigm, sure, but you can still move around from the keyboard? I do find it a little annoying that there aren't consistent shortcuts for moving between tabs in everything that uses them, could be cntrl-tab, could be alt-arrows...

I don't love it (yet). It's probably a combo of my Windows background, my ignorance of MacOS tricks, and actual limitations/flaws. * Cmd+~ from a fullscreen window does nothing, and non-full windows of the app cycle only among each other. If I have fullscreen windows anywhere in my setup, it breaks my flow and (afaik) makes me mouse to the Window menu. I feel like MacOS's fullscreen paradigm is more to blame here, be…

I wasn't initially a fan either but I find that it's forced me to organize my tabs / windows by what I'm working on and I actually prefer it now.

Maybe you need some more time, maybe you need to surrender to the ~ or maybe it's not your jam and that's ok too.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by Bigpet »

winternett wrote: post #475
metasaval wrote: post #344

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I'm on W11 as well and enjoy it over W10 for a variety of reasons (mostly gaming and HDR related), but instead of adding to that noise I just wanted to point out that this change is in Windows 10 as well. From the link, last sentence in the second paragraph: "As it turns out, Microsoft slipped the update into the final patch Tuesday of 2021 for both Windows 10 and Windows 11."

My HD runs incessantly on Win10, it's SATA, not SSD. Win 10 already pushed out an upgrade ad on my desktop today to my dismay, just installed win10 2 weeks ago, because I no longer had a choice. Most of the time the HD grind is caused by Chrome scanning my files, but still, I wonder if all the verbose logging and tracking that Win 10+ does now is what made them recommend upgrading to SSDs for the OS'es. I'm also pret…

Win 10 since the first insider builds was a terrible experience on mechanical HDDs.

Maybe it's their devs not having HDDs anymore. Who knows. I'm pretty sure it's not the volume of data being read/written. Just a lot of more smaller reads/writes or less attempts at latency-hiding.

Be it the anti-malware, less carefully written system apps or whatever. I think especially XAML stuff had terrible start-up times on HDDs. I remember filing a feedback item because after booting up my laptop it took more than 40s to open up calculator.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by cookiengineer »

cronix wrote: post #22

So far in the last year or so, I've heard 0 reasons why I'd even need, want or benefit from Win11 over Win10. Tons of reasons in the negative column though. There isn't even anything to salivate over that might make you think it might be worth it to deal with the other tradeoffs. Hard pass.

How far has ReactOS [1] come, btw?

I mean, at some point they converge to the featureset of Windows 7, and then Microsoft has no business model anymore when it comes to stability and time-of-life; which was the previous reason industries chose Windows over alternatives.

[1] https://reactos.org/

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by ranguna »

FourthProtocol wrote: post #490
a5aAqU wrote: post #332

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> I avoid the creepy feeling that Google is logging every mouse movement and keystoke I make for teh ads. Microsoft is doing it too: https://www.pcworld.com/article/423165/how-to-turn-off-windo... There's still Linux.

Always with the Linux. I can't use Linux, I work in a Microsoft world. I can turn off the keylogger, and virtually anything else I don't want/like. I cannot (assuming I used their products) stop Google from storing my (MY!!) data on their infrastructure and having their way with it.

Have you tried libre office?

And if you really need offline editing, you can still have all the pros of Linux + office if you install a Windows VM escape hatch just for Word.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by neop1x »

pacificat0r wrote: post #479
sockaddr wrote: post #478

Anyone on the fence about ditching Windows for Linux should just do it. If you pick a popular distro and hardware you'll likely run into only minimal issues, if any. My sound and wifi worked right out of the box even though I built my own system. Why anyone still puts up with this garbage, abusive, disrespectful OS is beyond me.

There are some videogames I play that only work on Windows :/

More people should be contacting developer's support and asking for a Linux release. I find it quite sad that they are still ignoring multi-platform support, especially after MacOS popularity (and powerful M1) and Vulkan API and DXVK on Linux. There is even the Steam on Linux and SteamOS.
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