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Toyota owners have to pay $8/month to keep using their key fob for remote start

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Post by betwixthewires »

dls2016 wrote: post #32
lkozma wrote: post #8

was posted here sometime ago: The door refused to open. It said, "Five cents, please." He searched his pockets. No more coins; nothing. "I'll pay you tomorrow," he told the door. Again he tried the knob. Again it remained locked tight. "What I pay you," he informed it, "is in the nature of a gratuity; I don't have to pay you." "I think otherwise," the door said. "Look in the purchase contract you signed when you boug…

Similar: Libertarian Police Department https://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/l-p-d-libertari...

I saw this as a greentext macro a while back. I wonder where it came from originally.

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Post by bschwindHN »

NotPractical wrote: post #113
Y_Y wrote: post #42

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We can do better than a link to a Reddit thread with a screenshot of some text. I found this on GameFAQs slightly modified from the original and posted the day after, on 2013-06-16. -2018 -wake up feeling sick after a late night of playing vidya -excited to play some halo 2k19 -"xbox on" -... -"XBOX ON" -"Please verify that you are "annon332" by saying "Doritos™ Dew™ it right!" -"Doritos™ Dew™ it right" -"ERROR! Plea…

Does this content really have a place on here?

Humor?? In _my_ gated community??

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Post by robotresearcher »

gbrown wrote: post #452
heavyset_go wrote: post #439

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> I'm just sitting over here hoping there's blowback that keeps some reasonable stuff on the market. Otherwise, I'm gonna have to become some sort of personal expert on keeping things from 1990 or older running. I'm at the point where I'm considering physically disabling the radios in my appliances.

"Error: cannot start (no connectivity). Please call a licensed repair technician to service your vehicle."

Too helpful. More like "Failed with error 0xC0000005".

That's a real error Windows 11 gave me this week. I know, never install a Windows version less than two years old. It's been so long I forgot.

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Post by yumraj »

notJim wrote: post #447
brokenmachine wrote: post #392

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It's too late now for her of course, but you can take the headrest off the seat and use the metal prongs to smash the windows to get out.

Also in the "too late" vein, at least in the US, I believe cars are still required to have a latch to open the trunk from the inside. Not sure if other countries have these.

Serious question: So why are all the people who are trapped/kidnapped in the cars in the movies not able to come out and have to yell to have someone come and rescue them?

That implies that there is no way to open the latch from inside and people, including me, may take that as the truth and not even try to find the latch. I for sure didn't know that there was a way.

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Post by djmips »

kingcharles wrote: post #449
mauvehaus wrote: post #431

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Having watched a burly firefighter take three good swings with an axe to bust out a window (to get to the hood release of an unattended car fire), I am extremely skeptical of this claim. Somebody on YouTube tested those emergency hammers and concluded they're basically useless. If you really want to break a tempered glass car window (I.e., any of them but the windshield), their recommendation was an automatic center…

Watch this... this made me realize how tough car windows really are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L91_K-s4pMM

Windshield even more so.

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Post by sli »

novok wrote: post #385
14u2c wrote: post #197

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What you are looking for are generally sold as "large format displays". Basically tvs for commercial purposes that do not have any of that crap. Most projector manufacturers, even the consumer ones, have also been good about avoiding "smart" features.

They cost inordinately more than what profit they are getting from ads & spying, and are often missing things like multiple HDMI inputs. It's not a real solution, but a bad workaround.

And more of these displays are getting these kinds of smart features added, anyway. It's going to become increasingly difficult to get a dumb panel at all.

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Post by betwixthewires »

brokenmachine wrote: post #445
rurp wrote: post #341

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I just went through this, buying a car to replace the one I'd had for 13 years. Oh man, I had no idea how terrible the car industry had gotten; it was every bit as bad as you're fearing. I had a slight preference for an automatic transmission but ended up looking mostly at manuals since those often lack a few of the "modern" anti-features. I wish I had better advice to give, the experience honestly bummed me out quit…

I too dread this. My current car's getting to about the number of kms that I usually sell at. With covid making secondhand cars expensive for some weird reason, and all these terrible modern car trends, I just haven't been able to bring myself to "upgrade".

Honestly, take the money you'd spend to upgrade and instead overhaul the car. Need new front seat upholstery? Some new plastic end pieces? Maybe an engine rebuild? It probably won't cost more than a new(ish) car, maybe even cheaper.

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Post by throwthere »

hoffspot wrote: post #135

I've been a Toyota Tacoma guy for the last 22 years (and counting). Three Tacomas and I have a son that we're deciding on a vehicle for in the coming year. This is how you take someone with massive brand affinity, someone who would even likely pass that brand affinity to the next generation, and push them to look at other options. Charging monthly for a service that isn't cloud enabled? If this is true, Toyota, you a…

Well this and the 2022 dropping the v8 for an unproven v6 twin turbo.

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Post by hansthehorse »

chris1993 wrote: post #299
phkahler wrote: post #109

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Reminds me of this tragic but true story about a man and his dog that died in a Corvette because the door failed to open electronically. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/06/11/te... If your car door uses electricity to open, you best know what to do when that system fails. Death should not occur due to failure to RTFM for a door.

My wife's cousin almost died from heat-stroke in her drive-way when her car trapped her inside the vehicle in full Australian summer sun because the battery failed while she was inside checking something. Doors and windows wouldn't open. Nobody heard her calls because the new car had good sound-proofing. She eventually managed to crawl through the panel behind the back seat to get into the boot (luckily she's quite p…

That happens here in Florida. Older person drives into a canal and the window motors short out they are trapped.
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