YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

Post by ddingus » Sat, Dec 04, 2021, 4:30 PM UTC

root_axis wrote: post #471

ddingus wrote: post #410

Of course they are! That's how this goes. Once the door is open for censorship, it all works just like lies do, and it's often associated with lies and or hurt egos, say lack of acceptance and respect, and it tends to spread, until it's ridiculous. And let's get real here: This whole mess is because the government and big media don't like being near constantly ratioed. They do have the option of improving how they wo…

The evidence presented in this video isn't anywhere near enough to confirm that this is actually true, yet you're already offering up speculative explanations about google's intentions as if it's all a foregone conclusion and you know exactly why. I think that's a little weird.

Post by popcube » Sat, Dec 04, 2021, 4:53 PM UTC

kazinator wrote: post #273

cbozeman wrote: post #235

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> YT is too vastly big for that. No it's not, it's our society that's fucked. It's our CEOs' legal requirement of fiduciary responsibility that causes these problems. YouTube was 10.9% of Google's revenue for the year 2020, with something around $19,770,000,000 of income. How many employees could Google hire to manually investigate and take action against users? Even 10% of that income to address this problem would h…

Suppose a person hired by Google is paid $60 per hour, and can review 20 video comments in that time with a reasonable thoughtfulness. So every human review costs Google $3. The entire revenue of $20B could be blown through on reviewing 6B comments. If you want to keep this activity to 10% of revenue, that caps you to 600M comments. > No it's not And I specifically said the site operators; people hired by Google to m…

Post by dewlinedew2 » Sat, Dec 04, 2021, 5:03 PM UTC

roenxi wrote: post #325

BbzzbB wrote: post #234

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Because you can't see a video has a 1:9 like:dislike ratio to tell you it's not worth your time. Granted, you'll (probably) be able to tell from the comments, for now. I'm not convinced how much it'd actually impact watch time, but it seems to be the thesis.

Tricking users into watching low-quality content on YouTube seems like such an obviously bad strategy it would pierce through even a few layers of corporate madness. Their reasoning is in all likelihood different.

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Dec 04, 2021, 6:19 PM UTC

tqi wrote: post #381

willis936 wrote: post #369

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A bad DIY video is an innocent example. Removing dislike counts is a blanket net gain for people publishing misinformation.

Relying on viewer voting to identify misinformation is a terrible idea. These videos are deceptive by design - and in our polarized environment the voting is probably a better reflection of the audiences's priors than the truthfulness of the content.

Post by johnisgood » Sat, Dec 04, 2021, 6:29 PM UTC

TulliusCicero wrote: post #189

redwall_hp wrote: post #126

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Some are already hedging their bets. Linus Tech Tips, which is a pretty big channel to say the least, launched their own Floatplane service which they use to give exclusive access to paying subscribers. Like early viewing, live streaming and videos that don't even end up on YouTube. They offer it to other channels as well. As far as I'm aware, it has no discovery so far (you need to know a channel URL). I wish Peertu…

That would be cool, but vertical integration does have a bunch of obvious advantages, which is why you see open source options often struggle compared to proprietary equivalents, like here, or with Discord vs IRC.