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Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by noahtallen »

dirkg wrote: post #475

why are the new models fatter, wider and heavier than the old ones? https://support.apple.com/kb/SP809?locale=en_US https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro-14-and-16/specs/ shouldn't it be the other way around with the integrated chips, thinner screen etc etc?

I’m guessing:

1. Ports need more space

3. Thermal solution probably needs more space. MBPs have had terrible thermal solutions in the past several years. Obviously M1X will be more power hungry than M1, and that requires better cooling

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by kainosnoema »

krzyk wrote: post #434
ksec wrote: post #118

HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C. Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015. In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference. MacBook Pro 13" 2015 - 1.8 cm MacBook Pro 13" 2016 - 1.49 / 1.55 cm MacBook Pro 14" / 16" 2021 - 1.55 /…

Bummer, I hooe usbc can still be used for charging. Abd that will be the default charger. I love the fact that I can charge my phone laptoo (lenovo) and my wifes macbook air all with the same charger. Bummer 2, because now producers of tvs/monitors will have less drive to reolace old hdmi with usbc. sd cards? Are they that popular nowadays?

My guess is this change was brought about by all the poor quality USB-C cables, hubs, and chargers out there. I bricked my Macbook Pro M1 by trying to power it from a supposedly compatible hub but wasn't negotiating the power output properly. Had to send it in for repair and have heard many other similar reports... guessing they decided to bring back the Magsafe for fast charging to avoid this headache of cheap/improperly manufactured USB-C hardware.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by awill »

dont__panic wrote: post #463
nbzso wrote: post #399

Nice. Ports are back. Very nice. Prices are up. Not nice. The deal breaker is the notch. Sorry Apple I am a designer. I cannot watch this 24/7. Even if the top bar is black the notch will be visible enough to distract my visual line. The more I look at this, the more I like the Framework laptop. P.S. Happy down-voting, have a nice day and stay safe.

Agreed. Icing on the cake: an incredibly specced Framework laptop is less than the starting price of the 14" MBP. And it has a 4:3 display ratio. And I can choose my ports! I'm confused why so many people seem hellbent on convincing me that a notch is a good thing, suddenly. Can't y'all understand that I have a personal preference towards rectangular screens without any holes in them? I admit that it doesn't make the…

I think everyone would agree the notch isn't good. But it's a tradeoff. Do you want a decent webcam? That's apparently the price we have to pay.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by nico_h »

valine wrote: post #46

Epic update. Crazy fast chips, 120hz, mini LED, more ports, 64 gigs of ram. It's literally everything you could want in a new MacBook Pro.

I’m so impressed by the screen but it’s too un-ergonomic for me that I’m sad instead. Would have been so nice if they had released 27” desktop screens to connect with these finally wonderful laptops.

It’s not like a huge majority of office workers have been staying at home or working from the office for the last year and half or something. The coffee shop surfing, working in the plane / train must have taken a dive.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by aidos »

rz2k wrote: post #442
ksec wrote: post #118

HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C. Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015. In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference. MacBook Pro 13" 2015 - 1.8 cm MacBook Pro 13" 2016 - 1.49 / 1.55 cm MacBook Pro 14" / 16" 2021 - 1.55 /…

I thought the 2016 MacBook Pro was an enormous improvement over the 2015 models, because 3 lbs is the sweet spot for me where I no longer had a hard time deciding between an Air or Pro model. The 14" model is 3.5 lbs like the 2015 13". Users' testimonials will probably make me happy that I waited for the second iteration of Apple silicon, but I do wish there was an option that had a combination of trade-offs like sma…

We’ve had the M1s for quite a while now and they were already head and shoulders above the previous Intel MacBooks.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by msie »

dntrkv wrote: post #414
nharada wrote: post #53

Happy to see they added Magsafe but ALSO still support charging via the USB3 ports.

Controversial opinion, but I think adding Magsafe back (along with the other ports) was a step backward for the industry. Apple pushed the whole industry to standardize on one connector for everything. If anyone really needed those other ports, a small $30 portable hub would add them all back. Magsafe 3 is just another connector that will add more e-waste and proprietary cables to the mix. It's nice that they kept th…

Reusing charging cables is only a big deal in online arguments.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by ant6n »

d3nj4l wrote: post #35

These look positively insane . 120Hz HDR displays. Can be specced with up to 64 GB of RAM and a GPU that (apparently) matches a 3070. All the ports you could ever want and magsafe. I can't wait to get my hands on one. The notch doesn't bother me because it's literally more room on the screen. Laptops with the camera below the screen tend to have an uncomfortable angle that look sup your nose, and the design suggests…

Yes, it looks _really_ nice. Specced with the crazy graphics, and 64G ram and 2TB storage, it costs 4000$. Ouch! Is the Max CPU still fanless?

(I really wish there was a matte screen option at the price point, my old macbook pro was a very expensive mirror and it puts a lot of strain on the eyes to try to concentrate on whats on screen, rather than behind it)

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by deergomoo »

ksec wrote: post #118

HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C. Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015. In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference. MacBook Pro 13" 2015 - 1.8 cm MacBook Pro 13" 2016 - 1.49 / 1.55 cm MacBook Pro 14" / 16" 2021 - 1.55 /…

> Both 14" and 16" have 254 PPI, up from ~220

Which also means they finally support more screen real estate at native 2x! Since 2016 the 13" MacBooks retained their 2560x1600 panels but shipped by default in a "looks like 1440x900" mode, which renders a 2880x1800 frame and does a non-integer scale down to the panel's native resolution, trading sharpness for extra space.

I hate the slight fuzzy look so I run mine at native 2x (e.g. "looks like 1280x800"), but it makes things pretty cramped.

These new screens can run native 2x at the "looks like 1440x900" res (other rather, "looks like 1512x982"). Very welcome improvement.

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