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Re: Leaked grant proposal details high-risk coronavirus research

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Post by taylodl » Wed, Sep 29, 2021, 3:35 PM UTC

noptd wrote: post #446

kyrra wrote: post #225

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Peter Daszak was also one of the people organizing the letter in the lancet back in 2020 denying that it came from a lab. Original letter: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6... Lancet responding to criticism: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...

Yeah, turns out 26 of the 27 scientists all had some conflict of interest related to the Wuhan lab: >All but one scientist who penned a letter in The Lancet dismissing the possibility that coronavirus could have come from a lab in Wuhan were linked to its Chinese researchers, their colleagues or funders, a Telegraph investigation can reveal. Source: https://archive.ph/dXc0n

Think about what you're actually saying: most of the world's coronavirus experts have some kind of link to one of the world's leading laboratories' researchers, colleagues, or funders. Would you expect anything else?

Suppose something strange happened and there were suspicions that it was CERN that was involved. Now a letter gets penned by the world's top particle physicists saying it's highly unlikely that the experiments at CERN would be involved. What do you suppose the likelihood would be that those particle physicists would have links to the researchers, colleagues or funders of CERN?

Re: Leaked grant proposal details high-risk coronavirus research

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Post by chrsw » Wed, Sep 29, 2021, 5:48 PM UTC

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chrsw wrote: post #7

I could be missing something but this isn't exactly the smoking gun the title makes it seem. I'm sure there are proposals, plans and applications for all types of things. What I'm waiting for, perhaps naively, is strong evidence, revelated an independent investigation, that there was some foul business going on here. Until I see that, I'm more inclined to rely on the word of experts who have no connection to any of t…

> that there was some foul business going on here The lab leak hypothesis isn't a hypothesis that foul business went on.

What about a possible cover-up of legitimate business that went haywire?

Re: Leaked grant proposal details high-risk coronavirus research

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Post by avianlyric » Fri, Oct 01, 2021, 8:29 AM UTC

sumedh wrote: post #487

avianlyric wrote: post #479

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> Please read my comments again, I never claimed it leaked from a lab. What hell are we talking about then? > China claims Covid started in the US, where is the evidence for that? You bought this up not me. I personally don’t give a shit what China claims. I’ve certainly never claimed that COVID originated in US, nor supported the idea. I have no evidence, and have done no research on this claim because I think it’s…

> China can whatever the hell China wants So China can murder innocent people all over the world, hide or destroy evidence, buy all the PPE from other nations and not be held accountable and you support this, wow, just wow. > Something that’s a naturally occurring event Can you give some evidence for this wild claim that Covid was a naturally occurring event.

Read the HN guidelines and stop being an arse.

Re: Leaked grant proposal details high-risk coronavirus research

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Post by sumedh » Fri, Oct 01, 2021, 8:35 AM UTC

avianlyric wrote: post #493

sumedh wrote: post #487

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> China can whatever the hell China wants So China can murder innocent people all over the world, hide or destroy evidence, buy all the PPE from other nations and not be held accountable and you support this, wow, just wow. > Something that’s a naturally occurring event Can you give some evidence for this wild claim that Covid was a naturally occurring event.

Read the HN guidelines and stop being an arse.

Post some sources for your claim instead of attacking me.