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Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

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Mozilla(Firefox's parent) has supported pro-social justice and progressive causes that ticked off a lot of users. There were a lot of discussions about it in 4chan from 2017-2019. Many people vowed to never use Firefox ever again and instead switched to alternatives like Waterfox and PaleMoon.

4chan and it's black sheep twin 8chan aren't really very important in the grand scheme of browser wars I would warrant.

Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

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post #367

One small thing: Firefox developer edition can’t edit files like chrome or their old firebug plugin. Therefore, apps get developed on chrome; therefore, they work better on chrome.

That's not even close to the main reason. Chrome has a much much higher share of the market. So much so that web developers can basically ignore firefox users without much uproar. They can justify their lack of testing in firefox as a budgetary trade off.

Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

#493
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I still use Firefox on my iPhone and computer. It generally works great.

I would use it if they implemented the content blocking API on iOS. I can use Firefox Focus as ad blocker with Safari, but not with Firefox!

if you turn on strict mode it blocks just about everything as well as brave does.

Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

#494

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Assuming we are talking about the same thing, it's absolutely not the same as containers. It'd be the same as Chrome profiles, or Firefox profiles for that matter. Containers allow you to have separate sandboxes within the same instance of the browser.

Ah. You are right. Well that’s a very cool feature that I wasn’t aware of.

Multicontainer add on is invaluable if you like siloing off google/facebook/etc into their own little cookie and context world. Also extremely handy for logging into sites where you have multiple accounts and in general web testing. It's definitely a poweruser must have. Most people can get away without it though or wonder why it would be useful :)

Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

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post #64

In other news: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/we-need-more-than-deplat... https://www.ghacks.net/2021/03/14/mozilla-plans-to-remove-th... https://www.ghacks.net/2020/04/08/how-to-restore-the-old-fir...

Here's what one of Firefox's Android developers thought of users after they raised concerns over the abolition of extensions and the rushed, buggy and inferior release: https://web.archive.org/web/20200731235001/https://twitter.c... Meanwhile Mozilla's CEO continues to fleece increasing millions of dollars while being responsible for a massive collapse in market share (she increased her pay 400%, while destroying the…

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Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

#497

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I was having crazy issues in GDrive and GDocs where I could download nothing using FF - no PDFs, no .docx files, none of my other backed-up files, you'd click download and nothing would happen. Do the same in Chrome, Edge, Safari, Opera, even changing my user-agent to Chrome, and it works flawlessly. My solution to this problem was move everything off GDrive and into self-hosted options. If Google is going to intenti…

What self-hosted option did you pick just out of curiosity? Looking to do the same thing.

Nextcloud is pretty great. I use it for file storage/sharing, contacts, calendar, and notes. There is a way to run a GDocs clone on it as well but I have no need for an office suite.

Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

#498
I stopped using Firefox because all my apps did not work on it. My Salesforce app, for example, didn't work on it. Part of my VOIP, which I depend on, does not work on it. And when I called support, all they say is to use Chrome. I'm not an assembly language programmer so I can't go to the bare metal to figure it out. That's what Firefox is supposed to do. I don't have time to figure any of it out, I have a job to do. Maybe it is my fault that some toggle is switched wrong, and I gave a cursory DuckDuckGo search to try to figure it out, but after an hour of looking, fruck it, I got other shlit to do, man.

Plus, Firefox is slow as molasses over the last year, so much so that I have to reboot several times a day. Starts out ok, but gets up to 100% disk and 100% memory usage. Using Chrome, it works fine without maxing out disk and memory.

I've used Firefox forever, and would prefer to keep using it, but it's just reached the tipping point for me this year. It kills me to go to chrome (Brave, actually) and I kept using Firefox a long time after it started giving me issues. But at some point, just gotta let go.

I know that the incompatibility is caused by Google on purpose, it pisses me off, but I still have to get work done. What can one do?

Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

#499

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I was having crazy issues in GDrive and GDocs where I could download nothing using FF - no PDFs, no .docx files, none of my other backed-up files, you'd click download and nothing would happen. Do the same in Chrome, Edge, Safari, Opera, even changing my user-agent to Chrome, and it works flawlessly. My solution to this problem was move everything off GDrive and into self-hosted options. If Google is going to intenti…

Do you block third-party cookies? It prevents Drive downloads in any browser with that setting, Chrom{e,ium} included. Recently I saw Drive give a suggestion about this, but a year ago when I was testing third-party cookie blocking in Chromium it took me a day or two before I figured out the connection.

"even changing my user-agent to Chrome, and it works flawlessly." implies that blocking third-party cookies is not the culprit.

Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

#500

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Mozilla pays millions of dollars per year to their CEO, despite the decrease in usage and user base. Could be a symptom of a larger problem in the organization.

I use Firefox but I don’t donate anymore which is awful but I want to donate to Firefox not Mozilla. If anyone knows a way to only support Firefox and not Mozilla at large do let me know!

One way to help Firefox would be to spend some time on Firefox bug reports or patches.
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