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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by pkulak »

Aerroon wrote: post #191
satysin wrote: post #94

So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

> * A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup I refuse. There better be easily accessible versions without this requirement.

5.12.12 was released on the 18th.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by torgoguys »

mdiesel wrote: post #447
FpUser wrote: post #373

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>"As far as I could tell, creating a user account just locally was not possible" I do it all the time. Do not plug network cable and do not connect to WiFi. Windows then proceeds to setting up local account

If you do accidentally connect to a network, before you realise this, there's no way to get it to forget. Rebooting doesn't work. The only solution I found was walking 30m away to the other side of the parking lot out of range of WiFi.

Start the install over from scratch. You can have wifi enabled when installing. Just don't plug in a network cable and don't connect to a wifi network when it prompts you to. Read carefully, you can avoid connecting and if you do you don't connect, you don't have to use a Microsoft account.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by formerly_proven »

reader_mode wrote: post #466
tryptophan wrote: post #382

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I tried Linux mint recently and was impressed. My parents seem to use it without issue. As long as you don’t game, need to use office or some other windoze software it seems like a viable choice.

Do you use a high DPI screen ?

If you use a high DPI screen things have been fine for many years. Mixed DPI is a different story, no idea if it works well, but it doesn't really work well on Windows, either.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by IshKebab »

ehsankia wrote: post #362
schlotzisk wrote: post #342

It's mind boggling to me, that Microsoft went with a redesign here. Personally the Windows UI never bothered me that much. I just feel like that they could have focused more on things like, stability, the search functionality or, and I'm not even kidding, printer and scanner support.

There's nothing wrong with redesign as long as they do it consistently across the whole OS, but from my experience, they reskin like 30% of the stuff and everything else stays inconsistent [0]. If they're gonna work on UI, I'd like to see them actually grow that 30% rather than keep changing things up. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27556754

I agree, they should have done the boring but worthwhile work of updating the control panel, font selector, etc. But nope. Add more inconsistency. And make the start button harder to click while you're at it.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by cassepipe »

tryptophan wrote: post #382
philliphaydon wrote: post #262

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Looking at windows 11 I might move back from linux.

I tried Linux mint recently and was impressed. My parents seem to use it without issue. As long as you don’t game, need to use office or some other windoze software it seems like a viable choice.

Installed it for a friend. Most of his steam games were working and some who didn't I easily installed them with Lutris Iirc. Libre office may not look super polished but it really covers any normal person's use case and beyond. The only thing he does not get are updates but automatic updates are coming soon anyways. I am a programmer and I run Linux Mint myself on all my machines because it just works. Any software that's not in the packages I use an Appimage or Flatpak or language specific packages manager such as cargo.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by EForEndeavour »

DavidVoid wrote: post #450
sorenjan wrote: post #247

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> A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? This is confirmed on the Windows 11 specification site: > Alignment to the bottom of the screen is the only location allowed. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifica...

> Alignment to the bottom of the screen is the only location allowed. That's incredibly disappointing! Having the task bar at the top of the screen makes a lot more sense for me. Application bars (tabs, urls, etc. in browsers) are at the top, so why place the task bar as far away from that as possible? It just doesn't make sense imo.

Thinking though how I use UIs, I like having one sidebar per screen edge because:

- I can spatially separate OS-level and program-level controls instead of visually/mentally hunting around in the same general area of the screen

- The effective clickable surface area of a button next to a screen edge is effectively infinite. For example, you can "crash" the mouse pointer downward onto a minimized window such that the bottom edge stops your mouse pointer from overshooting, and clicking will maximize that window. If you stacked OS-level and program-level control bars onto the same edge of a screen, one of them loses this UI perk

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Post by smackeyacky »

Silhouette wrote: post #437
k12sosse wrote: post #422

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Windows professional for professionals. Windows home for grandparents. Always has been this way. I'm ok with that. The tiers of OS have different requirements and features. Expected.

Windows Professional used to be for professionals. I think there is a strong argument that since Windows 10 it hasn't been, at least not for technically competent professionals. In 10, the Pro edition still has much the same user-hostile aspects as Home, which are inappropriate in a business context. If Windows 10 Pro had the same kinds of control over things like updates and telemetry as the Enterprise and Education…

Depends on the business. If you buy into the office365 thing it actually makes it easier to set up a business network across a number of machines without having to dork around with Active Directory or anything hideous like that. Up to 25 people I think it's pretty good. I'd much rather set up a clients business on Office365 than have to install an Exchange/AD server on their premises.

However the real reason to install Pro is to get access to the virtualisation services, which aren't enabled on Home. Most users doing development now benefit from that (think Android emulators, Docker desktop etc). The enterprise versions are just overkill for a lot of small businesses.

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Post by voussoir »

hoopleheaded wrote: post #190
silicon2401 wrote: post #180

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> A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup Looks like I'll be skipping windows 11 and any future windows iterations if this is unavoidable

I tend to avoid accounts as much as possible but this seems a juvenile response. Do you use a smartphone?

I use Android with no Google account signed in. For the two or three Play Store applications I need, I use Aurora Store to download them.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by easton »

virgulino wrote: post #418

No AMD Zen 1st gen support: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/min... Zen+ supported. I wonder why.

I bet the TPM isn’t 2.0. I was hoping buying into AM4 would mean I could keep this board longer too, but the but the 5xxx chips aren’t compatible with the original chipset.

My machine is super fast, but I guess unless I feel like staying on insider (which will have the TPM requirement patched out for the next little while according to MS), I’ll need to upgrade sooner than I planned.

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Post by swiley »

dagmx wrote: post #431
swiley wrote: post #111

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No. It normalizes OS vendor maintained AppStores which is a huge deal for Apple. The only way to avoid them now is to install Linux.

Linux distros also have equivalents to App Stores, and really an app store isn't different than apt-get from a lay persons perspective. Assuming you ignore payment/cuts, but it seems you're opposed to free App Stores too.

Linux distro repos are maintained by the community not a corporation. The only app store like that is f-droid.
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