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Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of Covid-19 Infection

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Re: Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of Covid-19 Infection

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There would be no emergency use authorization allowed if there was an existing possible treatment. https://www.fda.gov/media/97321/download#page12 Go to page 12 in the PDF (document page 8) then read section D. Pharma companies could not distribute experimental treatments unless they lied to us about existing useful drugs. Reminder: Pfizer: Phase 3 trial estimated end date 2023 https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT…

Dexamethasone is an approved drug recommended by the FDA for treatment of Covid and it didn’t stop the vaccine EUA. The vaccines are 95-100% effective in trials, no other drug comes close.

Please do not spread fake news. All current vaccines are less than 1% effective. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5...

Re: Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of Covid-19 Infection

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I heard about Ivermectin for the first time this week and was shocked how much it seemed that I had stepped into conspiracy theory land. There seemed to be an overwhelming amount of evidence over the last year that this repurposed drug is effective at treating Covid during a variety of stages (preventative, first positive test, ICU admittance, and even long haul). But since there hadn't been a randomized trial the dr…

There isn't really. There's as much evidence as we had for hydroxy chloroquine. So, some but unconvincing. And since it's been widely deployed by several desperate governments you'd think we'd know more by now.

Here's a breakdown of what we've learned: https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/06/07/iv...

Here's the latest bad news: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/04/science/coronavirus-iverm...

Re: Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of Covid-19 Infection

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WHO statement: https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/who-adv...

WHO has very low credibility at this point.

I don't know what you're referring to, but I'm going to infer that either your information sources are poor and/or you are incredibly susceptible to the power of suggestion.

Re: Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of Covid-19 Infection

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Actually a meta analysis can offer better evidence then a single RCT. https://ascopost.com/issues/june-10-2014/randomized-trials-v...

Wait a minute... This post is a debate between two opposing viewpoints. So it also makes the exact opposite point: The primary difference between a randomized controlled trial and meta-analysis is that the former “provide the highest level of evidence because they contain the least amount of bias. Randomized controlled trials reduce bias, while meta-analyses increase bias." This Hacker News story is about a recent me…

> But an actual randomized control trial of Ivermectin in March

Please see this

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27566123

Re: Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of Covid-19 Infection

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>Are you claiming that some non-trivial number of patients in India were treated with this Yes, example from two states. https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/lucknow/uttar-prade... https://www.news18.com/news/india/mortality-rate-much-lower-... The testimony video in this page cites examples in many other countries https://covid19criticalcare.com/

I see no numbers on how many people were treated on either of the first two links, and certainly don't intend to comb through the dross on the third link. So do you actually have a number? It doesn't need to be exact, just a credible source on the order of magnitude will be enough. Are we talking a thousand, a million, or a billion here? To reduce R by a factor of 2 by the use of a prophylactic drug, you'd need to ha…

Its the governments of the two states that are making the claims in the news articles.

I think it is safe to suppose they or the associated medical authorities have observed a big enough benefit before making that claim.

But no, no concrete numbers, as I think there was not much of tracking the number of patients who were given the drug. May be it is because such numbers are not much of a value in terms of research data due to lack of controls.

Re: Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of Covid-19 Infection

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post #452

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WHO has very low credibility at this point.

I don't know what you're referring to, but I'm going to infer that either your information sources are poor and/or you are incredibly susceptible to the power of suggestion.

Ask and it shall be given to you.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52088167

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/who-investigator-adm...

Re: Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of Covid-19 Infection

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>If someone died because of a "Take Ivermectin and you'll survive COVID" video on YouTube, who's to blame? But who is to blame for the deaths of thousands of people, who could have been saved by Ivermectin, which in all probability is happening right now, and has been going on for many months, if not for the censorship of W.H.O, Youtube and media?

> But who is to blame for the deaths of thousands of people, who could have been saved by Ivermectin, Entirely irrelevant when discussing YouTube, which we're doing now. YouTube is not a legitimate source for medical/drug information.

> YouTube is not a legitimate source for medical/drug information.

It is not a source, and never was a legitimate source of anything, but a media of communication. I am not sure why people mix the two up. If doctors in one part of their world can share their observations with doctors all over the world, it has tremendous value.

Now it seems that doctors can only share their observations with W.H.O and any inference should come from the top, which they could delay citing sorry "no research" for an arbitrarly long time..

Re: Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of Covid-19 Infection

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post #492

I heard about Ivermectin for the first time this week and was shocked how much it seemed that I had stepped into conspiracy theory land. There seemed to be an overwhelming amount of evidence over the last year that this repurposed drug is effective at treating Covid during a variety of stages (preventative, first positive test, ICU admittance, and even long haul). But since there hadn't been a randomized trial the dr…

There isn't really. There's as much evidence as we had for hydroxy chloroquine. So, some but unconvincing. And since it's been widely deployed by several desperate governments you'd think we'd know more by now. Here's a breakdown of what we've learned: https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/06/07/iv... Here's the latest bad news: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/04/science/coronavirus-iverm...

Both the articles you cite mainly complain about lack of data, but they both predate the study posted here. The NY Times is 3 months old. This study may or may not be good, but neither article address that question.

Re: Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of Covid-19 Infection

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That's the wrong side to look at this from. These are just people on the fringe with little influence and funding. If ivermectin was authorized as a viable treatment the vaccines receiving emergency use authorisation wouldn't have been possible. There were and still are billions on the line.

I'm having difficulty understanding this line of reasoning. What does the authorization of ivermectin have to do with the vaccines? Xofluza, Relenza, and Tamiflu have been approved for treating influenza, and that has had no effect on the recommendation that people get their flu shots.

>Xofluza, Relenza, and Tamiflu

None of them are as effective as Ivermectin (allegedly). It is only logical that efficacy is also important.

Re: Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of Covid-19 Infection

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keep downvoting. She's already had her Twitter account suspended. https://twitter.com/marybethpf/status/1404880155537985541

Can you please not post unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments to HN? If you have substantive information to share, please share it thoughtfully. If you post like you're doing in this thread, it's just pouring fuel on the flames, and no one learns anything from that. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Moreover, you discredit your own view by posting like this, which isn't in your interest—and if your v…

A world-famous scientific authority (and co-author of the paper in question) being banned from Twitter because her professional opinion doesn't match the allowed narrative? With 3.8 million dead (and counting) How is this not substantive and relevant to the discussion?
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