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The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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> these are all emissive technologies LCD doesn't have to be emissive. Black-and-white LCDs are most often not. It's unlikely but not impossible for there to be some breakthrough in colors LCDs

You mean like this? :P http://calculators.torensma.net/files/images/casio_cfx-9850g...

I actually thought of that! I had a friend in high school who had one. You had to set the contrast separately for each color and could never quite get it looking right

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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And make sure the keyboard is a chording one, so you don't have to look while touch-typing, and you get: https://www.friedmanarchives.com/dataegg/

Similar device: https://www.stavros.io/posts/keyyyyyyyys/

That is cool; it was discussed on HN, submitted by the creator: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26790486

I think that is like wearable computing input devices such as the Twiddler keyboard: https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=twiddler2&iax=images&ia=ima... and the DataEgg was intended to hold notes inside it and be a standalone device.

Related, the classic MicroWriter AgendA which was a PDA with chording and normal keyboards from the 80s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MicroWriter,_AgendA,_and_...

I think it should be possible to build that pattern into a multitouch web page on a tablet and take chording notes on a flat screen.

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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Frankly no, it doesn’t re-flow them so the text will often be too small. Quite a massive oversight and no one really talks about it.

That's a legitimate criticism, and one reason I've held off buying one. I wonder how long it would take to get a screen size of 13.5" (about the same as US letter paper size, which is what most pdfs are formatted for).

> I wonder how long it would take to get a screen size of 13.5"

Probably quite long. I remember a discussion here on HN a while ago where it was said e-ink displays are expensive since there's no economy of scale and there are only a few manufacturers. Now for larger displays the demand is even lower, so prices tend to be even steeper.

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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> RM2 doesn't offer proper PDFs annotations This is true and I don't really mind that personally although having read up a bit more on the Supernote, the annotations it generates do seem much nicer. > it's actually a pretty good deal Pricing seems about the same really. Especially when you consider the bundle of table, folio, and pen together for each. I was disappointed to see that the standard Supernote pen does no…

> Pricing seems about the same really. Especially when you consider the bundle of table, folio, and pen together for each. Fair enough. On the other hand, the Supernote comes with more features than the RM2 and gets updates much more frequently, so one would have to price that in, too. > I was disappointed to see that the standard Supernote pen does not include an eraser and the LAMY pen which does lacks the ceramic…

I recently saw that in a firmware update last month there was a new "gesture eraser" feature added. Supposedly if you hold two figures down elsewhere on the screen, then drawing turns into area erase. Curious if you've tried this and how well it works.

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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Yup. That was my main complaint with it, too. I wrote this package to add email uploads: https://github.com/remailable/remailable The rM is a delightful product to hack on.

Thanks for confirming. So for including support for reMarkable in HN to Kindle, All I need to do is host your project and ask for reMarkable device id from my users?

remailable works by associating their email with a device ID in its own db, so you don't even need to ask users for their device ID as long as you can send emails from a unique email addr. (I can explain more if helpful!)

I also have a public free version hosted at https://remailable.getneutrality.org/ if you prefer not to run one yourself, which you and your users are welcome to use. (it's tricky if you haven't worked with AWS serverless tech previously!)

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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>hand writing or drawing. A few weeks of practicing 10 minutes a day or so will give you good handwriting. A few weeks of a basic drawing course with a small amount of practice will give you decent enough skills to get your ideas down on paper. People naturally do the things they like to do. I actually enjoy the process of writing with fountain pens, calligraphy, taking notes, etc. Strangely, I also really enjoy the…

Any drawing courses you’d recommend?

There's tons of free ones on youtube so there's no need to spend a bunch of money. Proko has some good stuff on his channel. He does a lot of comic book stuff but he's a classically trained artist. Pretty sure he's got a beginner's section. He also has some videos giving advice on learning resources. There are lots of others that are really good too.

Drawabox.com has some good free stuff too.

If you'd prefer books I think Andrew Loomis books might be public domain. Fun with a Pencil is a good one. If they aren't public domain you can get them for $10-15 on Amazon because they started reprinting them.

How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way is also a really good introduction to drawing. Don't let the title fool you though because its one of the best beginner's drawing books regardless of the genre.

Those are just examples though, there's tons and tons of great resources and everyone has their favorites.

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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> I have even rediscovered the visceral pleasantness of writing by hand. A bit unrelated, but I’ve often wondered if I’m in the minority that hates writing by hand. Compared to typing, I’m much slower, and it looks terrible — I print in caps just so that it’s remotely legible. I avoid handwriting at all costs, and loath the few times it’s required.

You're not alone. I appreciate that some people enjoy hand-writing (the act itself, the ergonomics, and all the various bits of physical ephemera that accompany it-- pens, papers, etc) but for me typing's sheer efficiency and inherent machine-readability (not to mention being readable by other humans) wins every time.

This has been a bit of tug-o-war for me for a while. Where I've mostly settled is that I use TiddlyWiki as my main notetaker / knowledge base and using a paper notebook as a sort of sidecar (taking notes by hand where it is easier or more appropriate and then transcribing them into the wiki).

My wiki entries range from little "cards" of a few short sentences to longer entries written while analyzing or designing something.

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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Thanks for confirming. So for including support for reMarkable in HN to Kindle, All I need to do is host your project and ask for reMarkable device id from my users?

remailable works by associating their email with a device ID in its own db, so you don't even need to ask users for their device ID as long as you can send emails from a unique email addr. (I can explain more if helpful!) I also have a public free version hosted at https://remailable.getneutrality.org/ if you prefer not to run one yourself, which you and your users are welcome to use. (it's tricky if you haven't work…

Thanks again, I'm already using unique email addr just to be safe with Amazon and have prior experience with Lambda.

I'm currently in the process of validating my project and if there's enough need for reMarkable support I'll definitely use your project with due credits + donation(If my project makes any money).

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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I'm always super intrigued by the reMarkable 2, but I think it's because it paints an image of the type of person I think it'd be cool to be, someone who can just write down notes and draw stuff with a really cool, slim device. Someone who carries around moleskines and uses them, instead of just buying so many of them in different shapes and leaving them in a drawer packed to the brim with notebooks. The problem keep…

I carry a Moleskine everywhere. There's a bigger notebook on my desk. I just think better on paper. I took a serious look at those E-Ink tablets, but none of them beat the price or reliability of pen and paper. You can't easily flip through the pages. They're too big. They need an account. They need software updates and long term support. They work with a private cloud.

I'd love a sketch book with layers and an undo button, but at the same time, I appreciate the simplicity and realness of a physical notebook. I can smoothe lines with my thumb, or use colouring pencils.

When I finish a notebook, I scan its pages. It takes about 15 minutes. I suspect I'd spend a lot more time building a system around a digital tablet.

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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I'm always super intrigued by the reMarkable 2, but I think it's because it paints an image of the type of person I think it'd be cool to be, someone who can just write down notes and draw stuff with a really cool, slim device. Someone who carries around moleskines and uses them, instead of just buying so many of them in different shapes and leaving them in a drawer packed to the brim with notebooks. The problem keep…

I'm actually using my moleskine quite a bit, but it's frustrating because everything is chronological, all mixed up. I'm not using it enough to justify having different ones for all activities. And when it's full and I get a new one I never have have my older one at hand, it stays at home. So this kind of tablet looks really nice... The reason I prefer to write on my moleskin rather than my laptop is because if I hav…

I actually like that it's chronological and mixed up. It's a nice little time machine. Mine have meeting notes next to drawings of birds and measurements from the garage.
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