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One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

jpxw wrote: post #438
YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #413

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I'm Greek too (γειάα) but live in the UK. It's a cultural thing here, too. Just imagine everyone around you constantly trying to pinch every last penny off your purse, in any way they can think of. Or, look at the way the Brexit campaign convinced half of the UK citizens to vote for Brexit with unsubstantiated claims like "350 million to the NHS" or "Millions of migrants from Turkey coming over" etc. In general, I th…

Which part of the UK do you live in, I wonder. It it’s London (as I’d be willing to bet it is), I’m not sure you can generalise to the whole of the UK from that.

How much are you willing to bet? :|

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by cyphar »

tn5421 wrote: post #483
cyphar wrote: post #432

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GitHub doesn't allow you to disable pull requests, despite many project (including notable ones like Linux) asking them to add this feature.

They offer 3 options for doing so, in fact, in direct response to this controversy. I can limit interactions to non-new users. I can limit interactions to users that have contributed before. I can limit interactions to users that I have manually whitelisted in my repo. Unfortunately, only one of these can be active at a time, but the options do exist now. Go to your repo -> Settings -> Moderation Settings -> Interact…

Limiting interactions is not the same as disabling pull requests wholesale (you can disable issues completely), they are temporary in nature (you can only disable them for 6 months at a time), and in addition I believe my comment was posted before they announced the new feature -- and this is a feature people have been requesting for a decade now.

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by noja »

Zarel wrote: post #454
noja wrote: post #299

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> Changing the date without changing the code significantly is arguably fraudulent. In some countries the publishing date is what counts, and they define publishing for websites as when the site was viewed.

Presumably, even if publishing date is relevant, it's only first publication that's relevant. No work should stay copyrighted forever just because it's constantly being republished.

> it's only first publication that's relevant.

No, the publishing date is relevant (not the first publishing date).

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by LoSboccacc »

raverbashing wrote: post #478
avereveard wrote: post #285

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well check out italy, you can substitute italian with indians and keep the entire paragraph almost word for word. I suspect it's a common theme of countries that managed to keep an identity while under a long foreign domination. when the state is the enemy for generations, the ethics and norm about law and legality become a lot more flexible.

That's a ridiculous generalization I didn't see lots of Italians creating a PR just to get a T-Shirt

you need to start thinking percentages and not counts. also, and in percentage, knowledge of what a github even is in Italy is far lower; IT is still seen as the nerd kids choice and not as a professional career.

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by tripzilch »

gavinray wrote: post #400
tremon wrote: post #381

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I'll see your destruction and I'll raise you externalization . Yes, this behaviour is rampant throughout Western society, it's pretty much embraced by capitalism. It's still "who cares about $x, as long as I can get my $y". It doesn't really change the argument much if $x is open source and $y is a free t-shirt, or $x is the habitat of these creatures and $y is gallons of oil. Don't really see how postmodernism fits…

Why do people equate capitalism with "Fuck everyone, get money"? Sure, the people who have the majority of the world's wealth may be unsavory, ruthless folks, but let's not toss the baby out with the bathwater. Capitalism is the alternative to state-controlled commerce. If you believe in (here we go with the cringe term) liberty, then you cannot on-premise agree with an economic system that isn't capitalism. (Whether…

> Why do people equate capitalism with "Fuck everyone, get money"?

Because, in their own words, that is what they're saying when discussing capitalism.

From a thread yesterday: "I owe nothing to a stranger".

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by dragonwriter »

gavinray wrote: post #400
tremon wrote: post #381

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I'll see your destruction and I'll raise you externalization . Yes, this behaviour is rampant throughout Western society, it's pretty much embraced by capitalism. It's still "who cares about $x, as long as I can get my $y". It doesn't really change the argument much if $x is open source and $y is a free t-shirt, or $x is the habitat of these creatures and $y is gallons of oil. Don't really see how postmodernism fits…

Why do people equate capitalism with "Fuck everyone, get money"? Sure, the people who have the majority of the world's wealth may be unsavory, ruthless folks, but let's not toss the baby out with the bathwater. Capitalism is the alternative to state-controlled commerce. If you believe in (here we go with the cringe term) liberty, then you cannot on-premise agree with an economic system that isn't capitalism. (Whether…

> Capitalism is the alternative to state-controlled commerce.

No, it's not.

Capitalism is one of many models of how the state can regulate commerce through the definition of the parameters and boundaries of property rights.

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by tripzilch »

munificent wrote: post #437
gavinray wrote: post #400

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Why do people equate capitalism with "Fuck everyone, get money"? Sure, the people who have the majority of the world's wealth may be unsavory, ruthless folks, but let's not toss the baby out with the bathwater. Capitalism is the alternative to state-controlled commerce. If you believe in (here we go with the cringe term) liberty, then you cannot on-premise agree with an economic system that isn't capitalism. (Whether…

> Why do people equate capitalism with "Fuck everyone, get money"? That is exactly the behavior that capitalism incentivizes. Two facets: 1. I'm assuming we agree that capitalism is mostly about markets and free consumer choice. So you have a set of produces competing for purchases from consumers. Consumers have finite resources to acquire information about the producers they consume from. This means that if it takes…

OR you can say "PART of Capitalism may form a part of a functioning, efficient system, but it is always only a part."

It's nice that capitalism has some really efficient features. But it also has some really horrible ones.

If we're talking about functioning efficient systems, you really have to show that the bad parts of capitalism do not form an obstacle against having a functioning, efficient system.

So far in history we have only seen that the good parts of capitalism can work really well.

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by tripzilch »

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #418
gavinray wrote: post #400

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Why do people equate capitalism with "Fuck everyone, get money"? Sure, the people who have the majority of the world's wealth may be unsavory, ruthless folks, but let's not toss the baby out with the bathwater. Capitalism is the alternative to state-controlled commerce. If you believe in (here we go with the cringe term) liberty, then you cannot on-premise agree with an economic system that isn't capitalism. (Whether…

Well, you can't very well spark a fire that burns down a whole city and then turn around and say you can't blame the sparks because they're not really dangerous, it's only a conflagration that's really dangerous. Capitalism is the system that enables the kind of people you call twisted and unethical to do their twisted and unethical things and "amass hugely disproportional wealth". And also the system that everyone e…

> And also the system that everyone else accepts because they hope that, one day, they'll have the "hugely disproportional wealth" and be able to do twisted unethical things, themselves.

Just wanted to mention that this is such a US cultural idea. It's really not nearly as strong elsewhere (maybe some exceptions, I don't know everywhere in the world).

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by Siira »

jfengel wrote: post #370
aniforprez wrote: post #301

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I'm frankly kind of sick of the constant denigration and apologies being written slavishly to foreigners on behalf of all Indians by Indians. As an Indian, I accept there's a lot of cultural problems and crap in the country but to the degree that people will prostrate before the Western elite reminds me of our colonial days. Like, literally everything in that paragraph could be written about literally any part of the…

It's something you'll see in pretty much every disfavored group: people will attempt to push themselves up by pushing the others down. They'll say "I'm not like other X", reinforcing the idea that X actually does whatever bad things you imagine they do, and deserves to be looked down on. They usually don't even recognize that that's what they're implying. They merely want to set themselves up as worthwhile and ask no…

The social motivations for saying sth should not be conflated with the truth of that thing. In my experience, usually people shitting on their own group tell the truth.

On another note, I find Western, affluent self-flagellation much more pervasive and deceptive.

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by handelaar »

disgruntledphd2 wrote: post #340
fetbaffe wrote: post #334

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Pattern is high trust societies vs low trust societies.

Yeah, personally I think this has a lot to do with post-colonialism. I'm Irish, and there's a lot of this in our society. It was much more accepted in my parents generation, and appears to be reducing a little bit as we become a richer society.

It has rather less to do with post-colonialism than it does with having a very unethical dominant church for hundreds of years, honestly.

We're the only horrifically-bent country in northern Europe

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