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The Era of Visual Studio Code

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Re: The Era of Visual Studio Code

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Post by pwm »

fiddlerwoaroof wrote: post #453
aschatten wrote: post #291

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(disclaimer: I am an IntelliJ fanboy) > From my experience out of the box you get poor performance and you have to spend a lot of time figuring out how to change configuration to improve it as knowledge is scattered in many places and not always up to date. I don't know if you are talking about IntelliJ or VCS, but IntelliJ can quickly start an empty project. And you don't to spend time to figure out how things work.…

I know this is how a lot of people think of the text editor/IDE divide, but it’s just not true anymore: for specific languages like Clojure or Common Lisp, emacs has plugins that provide all the essential features of an IDE with minimal fuss. For JavaScript, VSCode or tide-mode for emacs have, in my experience, significantly better code intelligence than WebStorm. The only languages IntelliJ is better at than the com…

I agree. Which language you use defines which editor/ide suits it best.

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Post by edem »

willbw wrote: post #198

I find this post along with the comments in "A Picture of Java in 2020" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24551390 to be incongruous with my experience as a professional developer. My first couple of years writing software I used Vim, then VSCode, then worked in a Java shop and was forced to use IntelliJ. I didn't like it at first, but now after a couple of years I cannot see how I lived without it. The idea that…

I'm using IDEA and VSCode in conjunction (for Kotlin and Typescript respectively) and I find them equal in power. Maybe I'm not a power user, but I reached a point where they even look the same (more or less).

There are 2 minor differences I experience very often: VCCode is blazingly fast compared to IDEA, and VSCode has much more quality plugins than IDEA (at least for those things that interest me).

I'd compare VSCode to Emacs in a sense that the architecture is really simple (all you have is functions that do something) which makes VSCode more appealing to prospective plugin developers.

I'd even go so far as to say that to me VSCode becomes the new Emacs.

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Post by mraza007 »

I have been a heavy sublime text user. Really love the product it’s fast and responsive compared to VSCode as vscode gets slow when handling alot of files and searching through them. Kudos to Sublime Text Team for making awesome product with never ending trial.

Re: The Era of Visual Studio Code

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Post by drran »

nitemice wrote: post #404
willbw wrote: post #198

I find this post along with the comments in "A Picture of Java in 2020" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24551390 to be incongruous with my experience as a professional developer. My first couple of years writing software I used Vim, then VSCode, then worked in a Java shop and was forced to use IntelliJ. I didn't like it at first, but now after a couple of years I cannot see how I lived without it. The idea that…

As someone who uses all three of the editors you named, I think that each serves a pretty different purpose in practice. Each aspires to be the be-all, end-all editor/IDE, but that's just unrealistic to me. For me, I use VIM all day, every day at work (C++), because while it doesn't have the full IDE experience out of the box, it's close enough, and can be brought much closer with various plugins and knowledgeable ad…

IMHO, the main stopper for vim/emacs to go mainstream is lack of packages for preconfigured flavors of vim. E.g. `dnf install vim-perl -y ; vip myprogram.pl` or `dnf install vim-c -y; vic myprogram.c` .

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Post by bengalister »

Since I develop at work in a local VM with limited resources, I use Neovim + Coc that I found lighter than VSCode for NodeJs Js/TS, Python, Golang development. I can be very efficient in Neovim with a bunch of plugins fzf + coc + NerdTree. For editing VI is very powerful with Macros, global + normal commands, etc.

I use VScode for typescript web development, for instance for CSS editing I like having the color displayed next to the CSS value.

For Java I still largely prefer IntelliJ especially with Maven multi modules projects.

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Post by drdaeman »

int_19h wrote: post #194
drdaeman wrote: post #173

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I think it's the core product values for me. JetBrains IDEs are development environments, meant for editing code, in specific primary language. They really try their best to understand code that user works on (which is a hard problem, because code is frequently invalid while it's being actively edited), and make it as convenient as possible. VSCode is - in my understanding - essentially, a step over older glorified e…

PyCharm is also a common IDE core with a bunch of Python-specific extensions on top. It just so happens that JetBrains ships those extensions pre-packaged under different names for various target audiences, and they - especially the Java ones - have a lot of features, and decades of polish.

That's true, but that's Jetbrains core product. They sell it as Python IDE, batteries included, and they develop it with that intent.

VSCode does not get that kind of love, it is marketed differently and has different core values.

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Post by ImaCake »

int_19h wrote: post #216
ImaCake wrote: post #113

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>I have converted to VSCode because it just works and I don't have to mess with PATH or whatever. While I love VSCode and use it every day (mostly for markdown), I have definitely needed to play around with PATHs to get VSCode working nicely with my conda installs on both windows and mac (i.e. it never seems to actually point to the right python interpreter). No idea who is at fault here, but it seems to be a consist…

The problems with Conda usually have to do with its activation. If you manually activate whatever environment you want before starting VSCode, it should pick it up fine. But if you don't, and then later you pick a conda environment, it'll try to auto-activate it in the terminal for you - and this part is brittle, because anything else using the terminal can interfere with it (and vice versa).

Yep I think you are right. It does seem to be when VScode tries to auto activate it. This github issue had a solution in the form of adding an empty string for a particular option in settings.json [0]. This fixed it for my mac install. I can't remember what I did on windows to fix it.

0. https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-python/issues/4434

Re: The Era of Visual Studio Code

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Post by Vinnl »

frankjr wrote: post #52

I completely switched to VS Code once I discovered the remote development feature [0]. It allows you to run VS Code locally but work on a project in a different environment (via SSH, Docker, WSL). The integration is seamless - search, debugger, terminal, extensions - everything looks and behaves as if it was running locally but is delegated to the configured remote. You can even have different remotes opened at the s…

The only thing that's been preventing me from fully adopting this is that I don't have my local shell environment (autocomplete, syntax highlighting, etc.) anymore. Maybe I'll have to look at getting that setup in a container sometime, and then copy that over to every container I use.
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