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How does firing some of their brilliant tech staff helps them renew a deal to keep Google as default search on Firefox?
The theory is that Google might have required this of Mozilla as part of the deal, either officially or unofficially.
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Not to laypeople. Most people have no idea what query params are, or even what part of the url the top level domain is. You can explain what they are easily, but it still wouldn't be useful to laypeople. What can my mom do with "item?id=24156986"? Outside of developing something that interfaces with HN, I don't know what I would do with that info either.
Funny, I actually can't thing of anyone under the age of 30, lay or otherwise, who hasn't figured out that odd looking string in the URL bar is the name of the web page. They then rapidly figure out if they want to share that web page with a friend, all they need to do is send them that string. I don't know how they've learnt that, but I'm guessing seeing it they are the top of on every web page must be a bit of a gi…
My assertion is that the vast majority of people do two things with the address bar: 1. Manually type in a web site address, but nothing past the top level domain 2. Copy or paste the entire thing
I think what you're asserting is that people look at them, understand them, and then apply that knowledge somehow. I disagree with at least the last part, and probably the first two to a lesser degree.
What percent of laypeople do you think have manually altered a URL like your eBay example? I've done the same thing with Amazon product links myself, but I don't know anybody else who has. I just don't think it's very common at all.
Something I haven't seen anyone here bring up yet: many URLs are meaningless to humans past the domain. For an example, look at the top of this page. The only semantic meaning in the URL for this post is `news.ycombinator.com`. The rest, `item?id=24156986`, is meaningless to a human. (But, of course, meaningful to HN's backend.) A lot of (most?) of the URLs on the web are not semantic . They're naked application look…
But then again, you could argue, that URLs are meaningless to people. They are just some weird text and have neither face nor voice. I am not sure what google tries to accomplish with those changes. Somehow it feels like some UX designer has made this his personal vendetta. Didn't they try it already some months ago and got pretty clear feedback? If this is about phishing, who established the theory, that people who…
I think it's about the ways people can and do navigate the web.
It's something you don't need if you navigate the web just via Google, so they get rid of it.
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The theory is that Google might have required this of Mozilla as part of the deal, either officially or unofficially.
That's straight up on the ridiculous conspiracy theory field though.
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The first time I used Safari and didn't see a full URL was the last time I used Safari. I didn't raise a fuss or take to twitter, I just stopped using it. I'm probably not alone. In addition, Safari has a very small slice of browser usage in the overall scheme of things. I suspect the uproar would be just as vocal if their usage numbers were in the range of Chrome's.
You can enable the full bar though, instead of not using the browser anymore...
Something I haven't seen anyone here bring up yet: many URLs are meaningless to humans past the domain. For an example, look at the top of this page. The only semantic meaning in the URL for this post is `news.ycombinator.com`. The rest, `item?id=24156986`, is meaningless to a human. (But, of course, meaningful to HN's backend.) A lot of (most?) of the URLs on the web are not semantic . They're naked application look…
>The rest, `item?id=24156986`, is meaningless to a human Removing Url's is throwing the baby out with the bathwater though. Take Stack Overflow for an example: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53302536/vue-test-utils-... The only thing you need to actually get to the question is https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53302536 , but they intentionally add an extra human readable section for laypeople. If google actual…