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Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Post by Timpy »

a_c wrote: post #477

Interesting how an incidence in gaming garner more eye balls on the topic of Hong Kong politics than whole month combined. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... Good for the people of Hong Kong. The topic of Hong Kong didn't struck me as sensational/desperate as it deserves until a Hong Kong friend send me this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yXTHODE24Q Am moved by the clip, especial…

The Taiwan Flag Emoji topic got a lot of attention too. I think that's a fair spread. Censorship, Unicode standards, and Blizzard is kind of the expected overlap of interest topics for Hacker News.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Post by wiz21c »

The rule is clear :

>> Engaging in any act that, in Blizzard’s sole discretion, brings you into public disrepute, offends a portion or group of the public, or otherwise damages Blizzard image...

It says : "Blizzard is a commercial entity and it doesn't want to be involved in anything else than gaming".

For me Blizzard acts in a very corporate way. There's nothing wrong with that, provided you accept the corporate way is the good way.

If you think Blizzard's action is wrong, then just don't abide to their rules.

Blizzard has no moral, it's a commercial entity and it makes whatever compromise needed to expand its commercial activities.

Let's talk about that on the next tournament, just to see how the rules have been updated.

(try to express political opinion inside Disneyworld, just for fun)

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Post by redleggedfrog »

eric-hu wrote: post #460
redleggedfrog wrote: post #387

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have over 500 hours in Hearthstone. I played it on Saturday. It was my main online game. I haven't played it since. And yes, it's still an easy call. I was in Hong Kong for quite a bit when I was younger. It's a glorious place. Or was, I haven't been back. I don't approve of the Chinese government, nor the United States relationship with China. We've compromised our principals for economic gain (I'm American). Hong…

Wait, did I miss something? Isn't the NBA doing the same thing as Blizzard?

Well, kinda, they're being all wishy-washy about it:

https://www.nba.com/article/2019/10/08/nba-china-relationshi...

Not enough in my opinion.

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Post by Retric »

eric-hu wrote: post #460
redleggedfrog wrote: post #387

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have over 500 hours in Hearthstone. I played it on Saturday. It was my main online game. I haven't played it since. And yes, it's still an easy call. I was in Hong Kong for quite a bit when I was younger. It's a glorious place. Or was, I haven't been back. I don't approve of the Chinese government, nor the United States relationship with China. We've compromised our principals for economic gain (I'm American). Hong…

Wait, did I miss something? Isn't the NBA doing the same thing as Blizzard?

Not even close. The NBA did not ban a player in response to a comment, “Commissioner says league will continue to back Morey’s right to freedom of expression”. Activision / Blizzard on the other hand is actively suppressing speech.

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Post by flohofwoe »

hdfbdtbcdg wrote: post #482
ahi wrote: post #400

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r/blizzard is now locked down.

What? What is happening there?

The last message I saw before it was switched to private was a message from the moderators along the lines that r/blizzard is not the right place to discuss politics, and that they'll ban people who post politics there.

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Post by orasis »

echelon wrote: post #451
missosoup wrote: post #428

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What factories? Everyone already has or currently is moving manufacturing operations from China to Viet Nam or India. 5 more years and the only factories China will have are going to be domestic.

If we're going to repeat the same cycle with Vietnam and India, we'd do well to encourage democracy this go-around. If we elevate authoritarian countries to our level, democracy may be in for a rough future. We should be learning a lot from the China situation. Modern China proves that authoritarian capitalism works and that you don't need freedom or liberty for your citizens. And that's incredibly scary. Imagine if…

Be careful. We don’t have a great track record “encouraging democracy” with Iraq and Afghanistan.

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Post by rtkwe »

Shivetya wrote: post #380
KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #353

Absolutely agree, it's time for American video games to stop publishing in China. It's not worth the Chinese influence on our society.

American video games? What about American companies that have factories there or other presence there? Hello Apple! Hello Tesla! Hello Google. Blizzard has been bending over backwards for some time with regards to China but this is the first time I remember them taking action against someone who does not work for them. the simple matter is, you cannot pick and choose, all the companies must be shamed into not bending…

For companies using China for manufacturing it's less visible than entertainment companies like the NBA and Blizzard (to choose the two most recent examples) who are bending to China on censorship so it's natural the big hits would come from those companies actively censoring personalities rather than those just quietly not doing something because of China.

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Post by marcosdumay »

diveanon wrote: post #27

Can we please start a cultural movement that forces large corporations to choose between appeasing Chinese censors and looking like fools to the rest of the west or getting banned in China. Really seems like a win win scenario.

Isn't this what we are doing here?

Re: Blizzard Suspends Professional Hearthstone Player for Hong Kong Comments

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Post by geertj »

This is what you get for cosying up to bullies. It may be exhilarating while it lasts, but since the bully doesn't care about anyone but themselves, you will eventually always loose. The west has been gorging on cheap products from China and we started getting dependent. Now the bully senses power over us, and starts applying pressure. The better bullies know how to do this incrementally, slowly at first, so that it's hardly noticeable. Then, at some point you realize you're in a situation that you don't want to be in, but it's too late.
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