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Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by tyrbo » Fri, Sep 27, 2019, 9:29 AM UTC

FireBeyond wrote: post #311

xedeon wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This notion, particularly among Tesla owners, that active lane centering and steering is a Tesla exclusive, is at times wilfully blindered, to the obnoxious. Autopilot is more than just "active lane centering and steering" (known as LKAS) Autopilot is a combination of a lot of things (TACC + Autosteer + Auto Lane Change + Auto Lane Keep + NOA etc...) Autosteer is also way ahead of everything else out there right no…

> Autopilot is more then just "active lane centering and steering" (known as LKAS) Autopilot is a combination of a lot of things (TACC + Autosteer + Auto Lane Change + Auto Lane Keep + NOA etc...) Yes, it is. The parent just made a dismissive, " Does it steer and lane center in general, besides when you drift out of lane?", implying that other cars don't. Other cars also have other features beyond LKAS, too. That's j…

Just to follow up on the reddit post, the author of the post submitted another one with an additional video with more angles.

https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/d3yx03/round_2...

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by sizzle » Fri, Sep 27, 2019, 9:31 AM UTC

kerkeslager wrote: post #355

I want a well-put-together electric car that's completely analog from the user's perspective . There's not a single user-facing digital feature I've ever seen on a car that I wanted, and in fact most of them make things worse. Obviously there's some non-user-facing stuff, i.e. all-wheel-drive, which computerization has revolutionized. But any user-facing stuff is just awful. I want an electric car, but I don't want t…

Why not smart assistant integration?

Me (driving): Alexa/Siri set temperature to 70 degrees

Alexa/Siri: temperature set to 70 degrees

I would love this, already do it with my smart thermostat + Alexa skill integration.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by GrumpyNl » Fri, Sep 27, 2019, 9:34 AM UTC

I love the push buttons on my radio 1-10 for 10 channels. If i wanna change, i intuitive press the right button. I drive a Mercedes, i can skip through 20 channels on my steer-wheel, or use the touchscreen and go to radio and... Push buttons for me.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by mlindner » Fri, Sep 27, 2019, 9:35 AM UTC

mark242 wrote: post #358

kerkeslager wrote: post #355

I want a well-put-together electric car that's completely analog from the user's perspective . There's not a single user-facing digital feature I've ever seen on a car that I wanted, and in fact most of them make things worse. Obviously there's some non-user-facing stuff, i.e. all-wheel-drive, which computerization has revolutionized. But any user-facing stuff is just awful. I want an electric car, but I don't want t…

Get yourself a used Ford Focus Electric. The range is small, but it's the perfect commuter car and is the closest thing to an "analog" electric car you'll find. Ford took the high-end Titanium body and interior and grafted the electric drivetrain into it.

Any gas car converted to electric is universally terrible. They have to mount the batteries extremely high because the chassis wasn't built for the batteries and this results in utterly horrible handling because the center of mass is too high.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by close04 » Fri, Sep 27, 2019, 9:36 AM UTC

sizzle wrote: post #492

kerkeslager wrote: post #355

I want a well-put-together electric car that's completely analog from the user's perspective . There's not a single user-facing digital feature I've ever seen on a car that I wanted, and in fact most of them make things worse. Obviously there's some non-user-facing stuff, i.e. all-wheel-drive, which computerization has revolutionized. But any user-facing stuff is just awful. I want an electric car, but I don't want t…

Why not smart assistant integration? Me (driving): Alexa/Siri set temperature to 70 degrees Alexa/Siri: temperature set to 70 degrees I would love this, already do it with my smart thermostat + Alexa skill integration.

I wouldn't mind having the option of a car's voice assistant (exclusive for the car, where I have a signed contract with the manufacturer stating that what happens in the car stays in the car and doesn't get sold for ads). But I'd still very much prefer to have a dedicated physical button option for any basic function that a driver might use while driving. Not a button that navigates through a menu but something where I can use muscle memory and have the guarantee that it does what I expected without taking my eyes off the road for a second.

So for example the volume up button should always be a volume up button. They shouldn't change function because in some other menu I picked "temperature" instead of "volume".

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by nguoi » Fri, Sep 27, 2019, 9:42 AM UTC

mlindner wrote: post #494

mark242 wrote: post #358

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get yourself a used Ford Focus Electric. The range is small, but it's the perfect commuter car and is the closest thing to an "analog" electric car you'll find. Ford took the high-end Titanium body and interior and grafted the electric drivetrain into it.

Any gas car converted to electric is universally terrible. They have to mount the batteries extremely high because the chassis wasn't built for the batteries and this results in utterly horrible handling because the center of mass is too high.

Handling doesn't matter in city commuting. People also seem happy to buy SUVs and crossovers which have much higher centres of mass than hatchbacks.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by mlindner » Fri, Sep 27, 2019, 9:43 AM UTC

ubermonkey wrote: post #112

oflannabhra wrote: post #23

Is there a specific reason why Tesla refuses to integrate CarPlay or Android Auto?

It's really baffling. The CarPlay experience in our Volkswagen is so good I cannot imagine ever going back to an automaker's in-house system. Even the ones in the luxury cars I've had -- BMW, Mercedes -- have been absolute crap compared to CarPlay. I don't even care that it requires USB.

I suggest you actually try the Tesla UI. It puts every other automaker's system to utter shame so you shouldn't be lumping it in with the others. It's at the level of CarPlay, if not better.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by mlindner » Fri, Sep 27, 2019, 9:44 AM UTC

cwkoss wrote: post #390

zaroth wrote: post #368

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you literally asking about how the feature performs if there is a child hiding under the car?

Yes. Because if there aren't any undercarriage sensors this will eventually lead to deaths.

And what prevents you from climbing into your car and doing the same thing? Do you check under your car every time before you drive off? I know I certainly don't and never have.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by tonyedgecombe » Fri, Sep 27, 2019, 9:45 AM UTC

benj111 wrote: post #432

kerkeslager wrote: post #355

I want a well-put-together electric car that's completely analog from the user's perspective . There's not a single user-facing digital feature I've ever seen on a car that I wanted, and in fact most of them make things worse. Obviously there's some non-user-facing stuff, i.e. all-wheel-drive, which computerization has revolutionized. But any user-facing stuff is just awful. I want an electric car, but I don't want t…

Auto tuning radios are quite nice, and automatic chokes. But in general I agree, I don't want to be battling some interface whilst I'm trying to drive. I'm surprised there havent been moves in Europe to ban the Tesla type, everything on a tablet setup. I'm not allowed to use a phone whilst driving, why is a big screen on the centre console any different?

Isn’t the conversation the main distraction with phones, exacerbated by the fact the other person can’t see the hazard you are approaching.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by tonyedgecombe » Fri, Sep 27, 2019, 9:47 AM UTC

kaiwen1 wrote: post #413

The depth and breadth of anti-Tesla sentiment in HN threads is curious. It's rarely from owners. By all satisfaction surveys, owners love their Teslas.

It works both ways, I’ve been heavily downvoted just for saying they won’t have the EV market all to themselves much longer.