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My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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>As far as $200K being high adjusted for COLA, in the burbs where I live. $330K gets you a house - brand new build in a top rated school system with five bedrooms, 3.5 baths, 3000 square feet with a yard, two car garage, and a separate nice size office. What does that get you in SV? Nobody actually plans on retiring in SF. When I'm done working here for 10 or 15 years I'll have enough to move and own a mansion in wha…

Speaking in general, not about me in particular... I'm going to give up 15 years of my life -- the time that most people spend getting married, having 2.5 kids, etc. to live in SV -- when I could spend those fifteen years living in the burbs in a big house with the white picket fence in almost any other major city in the US? Especially if you are a two parent household, the general MO is that the second smaller incom…

> I'm going to give up 15 years of my life -- the time that most people spend getting married, having 2.5 kids, etc. to live in SV -- when I could spend those fifteen years living in the burbs in a big house with the white picket fence in almost any other major city in the US?

First of all I'm not "giving it up" and I have no desire for your lifestyle. It honestly sounds horrible.

Enjoy your life.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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I am a brown male working in India. The salaries are rounded to the nearest 100000 INR. USD values are rounded to the nearest 1000 USD. These are salaries per year . Need to emphasize this because when you see numbers like 3000 USD you may think this is per month. No it is indeed 3000 USD per year. When there are stocks involved, only the stocks that vest per year is included as part of the yearly salary. 2003 - 0 YO…

holy smokes- talk about an opportunity to reverse offshore outsourcing. Take LCOL principal engineers in US to work in India.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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My current employer pays in rupees. I don't have a Masters degree. I cannot share which university to keep my privacy. But I am not from IIT, NIT, or any top state college. Basically I am not from any Tier 1 university or college. My university must be Tier 2 or Tier 3.

What is secret of your high salary. Can you please point out what thing helped to you get high salary?

The secret is to work for an American company.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Don’t shame people for making more money than others. The idea of this is we all see what we make. The outliers are making what we should all make.

It's not about shaming people. HN is full of West Coast FAANG SV employees who are outliers. It's easy for people to feel that their perfectly normal salaries are low.

> it's easy for people to feel that their perfectly normal salaries are low.

Part of a free market is realizing that, if others are earning more money for the same work, there is a good chance that you are undercharging your employer for your services.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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I'll add my salary. I am a white male. I began my first salaried position when I was 18, with an Associate's Degree in Liberal Arts. I taught myself to write code in my teens. Prior to this position, I had worked for a fly-by-night startup remotely for $10/hour for about 3 months. I took these jobs in the state of Michigan.

  2014 - $50,000/year  - Software Engineer     - Company A
  2015 - $72,000/year  - Software Engineer     - Company A (raise)
  2016 - $80,000/year  - Software Engineer     - Company A (raise)
  2016 - $88,000/year  - Software Engineer II  - Company B (new job; $5,000 signing bonus)
  2017 - $92,000/year  - Software Engineer II  - Company B (raise)
  2018 - $98,000/year  - Software Engineer II  - Company B (raise)
  2018 - $110,000/year - Software Engineer III - Company B (promotion)
At Company A, I was offered stock options at my start date which became worthless by the time they vested. I later received RSUs in 2015 which began vesting after a 1-year cliff, to the tune of ~$10,000/year.

At Company B, I was offered various stock options and RSUs pre-exit. When the company was acquired in 2018, they became worth ~$9,600/year.

Additionally, Company B offered a bonus program worth approximately 10% of my salary each year.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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All total cash/cash-equivalent compensation from 2 public tech companies in Seattle (rounded to the nearest 5k). I moved from Vancouver in 2009. Given the pay disparity and job options are so much better there’s not much chance I’ll return for a very long time if ever.

  2009 - $95k
  2010 - $100k
  2011 - $125k
  2012 - $155k
  2013 - $170k
  2014 - $200k
  2015 - $230k
  2016 - $260k
  2017 - $315k
  2018 - $385k (approx.)

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Everyone is posting salaries... How about hours worked. I sometimes feel like a frog in a pot and am in the office for 45 hours a normal week and at times 50. Once in a while a few hours of production support on nights and weekends. The only time I worked 40 hours was government... I realize it could also be the nature of the application. Looks like the author is mainly on UI while my application, and at my previous…

I work for an American BigCo writing server-side code. I typically put in a 50 hour week. Salary: $155,000

However, I work remotely (I am not American) so I have that flexibility, and I also don't waste time commuting. To me, the extra hours in the chair are worth it.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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I studied at UWaterloo and had many internships from 2007-2010 for which I forget the pay I was making, but I remember all of my full-time amounts (I started with around 2 years of work experience): 2012-2013: RIM/Blackberry in Waterloo, Canada: CAD 70,000, no bonus or stock, 15 days of vacation or so, 40h per week, software developer 2014-2016: YourGolfTravel in London, UK: GBP 41,000 first year, GBP 43,000 second y…

> 2017-present: software developer & architect at TELUS digital in Toronto, Canada, for not less than I was paid in the US Huh, it's good to know Telcos in Canada will pay Software People well. I worked in Software for a wholly owned subsidiary of Bell and the IT staff were paid a tiny fraction of your US salary.

Unfortunately, it depends where in said telco you're working. As someone who works for the same telco as GP but in a different (non-telecom related) branch, people here get paid peanuts. TELUS Digital is an interesting case, since it's smaller, has more autonomy and is better-funded (when you divide by the number of employees, of course) than most other parts of the company. Want to work for any other branch? You're back to bottom-of-the-barrel salaries (not quite offset by other compensation), BigCo bureaucracy and a velocity rivaling that of molasses.

I happen to live in an only moderately-high CoL area too, not sure how people make ends meet in Vancouver, Toronto etc. on similar salaries. It's saying something when government orgs in the same industry are paying more (with better benefits to boot!)

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Out of curiosity and a bit of jealousy :-) What is the programming field companies are willing to give MM of RSU to programmers? Do you really make a difference to their top line? I had the impression that it’s more the project management and business development that can justify that compensation.

Honestly, these companies just have so much money right now and their stock keeps on going up. They're competing for top talent, so bidding wars happen. These were L6 offers at the time. Gets much more ridiculous the higher you go (over $1MM/year comp) I'm not a super specialist or anything, just a solid developer (mostly front end, some back end)

These companies are basically 'finance' at this point. Instead of markets and assets it's platforms and data.
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