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Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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How does GDPR affect people in other countries with no interest in doing business in Europe? If I host a forum in the US and you ask me to remove your posts and I tell you where to stick it, what legal consequences might I face? Erm, asking for a friend.

If you aren't in the Union, it applies to you if either [1]: (a) you are processing data of data subjects who are in the union related to the offering of goods or services to such data subjects, or (b) you are processing data of data subjects who are in the union related to monitoring of their behavior as far as their behavior takes place within the Union. If you can avoid both of these, then I believe you can pretty…

geoip based blocking is wrong. An American customer can be travelling in Europe and be blocked while any EU citizen can use a proxy or VPN to workaround your geoip block.

If you can live with infuriating a small portion of your customers while have a protection that can be circumvented in a matter of seconds then geoip block is what you want, otherwise ...

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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I"m not really a fan of the GDPR. I don't think it really protects privacy. I think it just uses the power of the EU, a fairly big and strong organization, to intimidate the rest of the world to comply with laws that it really shouldn't have legal jurisdiction to enforce globally. I think this is a scary precedent to set that the biggest bully on the block can de facto enforce such standards because the rest of the w…

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Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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It's not clear that a forum administrator would need to do anything under the GDPR except respond to emails with the standard template: "The forum does not collect or process any personal data." Technically, I suspect, this would be true. The GDPR and the right to be forgotten are subtle on this. If a user chooses, unprompted, to share PII it's not clear that collection has taken place. Imagine a user, out of the blu…

Usernames can be identifying, as could other profile information. IP addresses in server logs. Those are easily under your control, and you should mention those as things you process, but also are easy to justify assuming you don't do anything weird with them.

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Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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I"m not really a fan of the GDPR. I don't think it really protects privacy. I think it just uses the power of the EU, a fairly big and strong organization, to intimidate the rest of the world to comply with laws that it really shouldn't have legal jurisdiction to enforce globally. I think this is a scary precedent to set that the biggest bully on the block can de facto enforce such standards because the rest of the w…

The GDPR exists because everyone has been a dick because they know they can get away with it. By default the mentality is take take take. Now the business models built on that are being trashed. If someone keeps burgling your house they need to go to prison. Simple as. Time is up for this way of thinking. It is not difficult to be compliant. Most people don’t bother because they are drama queens or hiding what their…

GDPR exists as a proxy censorship tool to close sites using fines without looking like a socialist censor. GDPR is written so that every site can be found non complaint.

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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I"m not really a fan of the GDPR. I don't think it really protects privacy. I think it just uses the power of the EU, a fairly big and strong organization, to intimidate the rest of the world to comply with laws that it really shouldn't have legal jurisdiction to enforce globally. I think this is a scary precedent to set that the biggest bully on the block can de facto enforce such standards because the rest of the w…

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That sounds like an excellent source of corruption and conflict of interest.

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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I"m not really a fan of the GDPR. I don't think it really protects privacy. I think it just uses the power of the EU, a fairly big and strong organization, to intimidate the rest of the world to comply with laws that it really shouldn't have legal jurisdiction to enforce globally. I think this is a scary precedent to set that the biggest bully on the block can de facto enforce such standards because the rest of the w…

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Do you have any sources please?

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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As someone who ran a forum centered around one of my passions, I was happy to help users out with small adminstrative tasks. Like you said, no big deal. Now if I was legally required to act on every request in 30 days or face potential litigation, that's a totally different story. I'm doing something that's a fun hobby of mine for free that will benefit others with similar interests. The line is drawn when it can hav…

This misrepresentation of the situation is well addressed in the other reply, but I'd like to point out that unless your hobby is collecting and processing personal data, you simply have to not collect any personal data as no personal data is required to run a forum, add a page explaining so and direct requests to this page.

What constitutes personal data hasn't been made clear. People think IP addresses and usernames will count, and really anything in someone's posts might too. Post timestamps are no doubt correlated with users timezones, that sounds like personal data to me too.

You could credibly argue that the sole purpose of a forum is to collect and share personal data.

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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The GDPR exists because everyone has been a dick because they know they can get away with it. By default the mentality is take take take. Now the business models built on that are being trashed. If someone keeps burgling your house they need to go to prison. Simple as. Time is up for this way of thinking. It is not difficult to be compliant. Most people don’t bother because they are drama queens or hiding what their…

GDPR exists as a proxy censorship tool to close sites using fines without looking like a socialist censor. GDPR is written so that every site can be found non complaint.

Please go and read the regulations and compliance. A monkey could work it out.

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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So people shouldn't be allowed to smoke if they want to?

If they want that’s fine but it’s damaging behaviour for society so it will be taxed and/or regulated.

The reason it is taxed is because they can get away with it.

Re: Shutting Down Forum (GDPR)

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That's basic survival for instinct for small shops. They may not be able to do X, but their entire life won't be crushed under the boot of Darth GDPR either.

> but their entire life won't be crushed under the boot of Darth GDPR What a fucking stupid thing to say. GDPR requires a few things: don't collect too much data; be honest about why you're collecting it; allow corrections; in some situations allow deletion. This isn't a a boot crushing people.

> What a fucking stupid thing to say.

Would you please stop going on tilt like this on HN? You know we ban people for commenting this way.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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