ThinkPad X1 Carbon • Hacker News Board

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by LinuxFreedom » Sat, Dec 31, 2016, 5:39 PM UTC

jiqiren wrote: post #459

LinuxFreedom wrote: post #453

Please support the idea of building a better planet for our children and do not buy laptops where you can not replace the battery - managers in companies that build these kind of products have to learn that they are acting against human interests and need to change their way of thinking. Of course this applies to all Laptops where you can not change battery. Thanks and have a better 2017!

Nonsense. If you dispose your ewaste properly (which is in general the law) a builtin battery will get recycled or disposed of just the same as one that is replaceable.

You seem to believe that "ewaste" is something that can be "properly disposed" - you have no clue about reality or you are a marketing guy that wants to spread his lies. Maybe you are just naive and really believe the things big companies are telling you - a good follower!

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by bluedino » Sat, Dec 31, 2016, 5:40 PM UTC

aiur3la wrote: post #431

bluedino wrote: post #127

I owned a first generation X1 for a while. Eventually sold it because it only had 4GB of RAM, and there is not much of a source of the proprietary SSD. The battery was down to 3 hours, and I wasn't going to replace it if I couldn't put at least 8GB/512GB into it. I really liked the Lenovo X1. From 2012 to now I've went from the MacBook Pro to MacBook Air and now the MacBook Pro Retina. With the Lenovo, the touchpad w…

The first gen X1 came with 8GB of RAM and standard SATA interface (is was quite bulky for that very reason). Maybe you are thinking of some other device?

I was speaking of the X1 Carbon - which the article is talking about

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by berdario » Sat, Dec 31, 2016, 5:41 PM UTC

joatmon-snoo wrote: post #382

berdario wrote: post #329

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Thinkpads are not better than other laptops when it comes to Linux support. Just look at the broadcom wifi chipsets: if you mistakenly buy a thinkpad with one directly from their website (and they obviously don't advertise it as such when configuring the hardware), and then ask their support to get it fixed/changed (even on your own dime) they'll just stonewall you. Once they got money out of your pocket, you mean no…

Ah. I guess personally this is less of an issue because I stick to after market laptops, not new ones, and I know where to look to replace stuff like the WiFi module (had no idea Broadcom chipsets didn't have Linux drivers). Can't justify the price. On the security point, SuperFish was on a different product line - Ideapads, Lenovo's consumer line (with quality that parallels Dell's consumer stuff) - and I would have…

> had no idea Broadcom chipsets didn't have Linux drivers

Actually, it was a Realtek chipset (I'm not currently using that laptop, so I remembered incorrectly). The driver was available, but it was severely unstable, dropping connections and packets, and even triggering kernel panics a few times (once it even happened during a coding interview!)

> On the security point, SuperFish was on a different product line

Unfortunately, SuperFish was not the only fiasco that Lenovo plagued its devices with:

http://thehackernews.com/2015/09/lenovo-laptop-virus.html

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150812/11395231925/lenov...

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by Aissen » Sat, Dec 31, 2016, 5:42 PM UTC

colemickens wrote: post #355

rzhikharevich wrote: post #285

Am I correct that "Signature Edition" means no Linux? Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53ri0m/warning_micro...

Read the top comment...

Please do not reference "top comments" as comment order is usually in flux for a while.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by LinuxFreedom » Sat, Dec 31, 2016, 5:42 PM UTC

sprash wrote: post #471

LinuxFreedom wrote: post #453

Please support the idea of building a better planet for our children and do not buy laptops where you can not replace the battery - managers in companies that build these kind of products have to learn that they are acting against human interests and need to change their way of thinking. Of course this applies to all Laptops where you can not change battery. Thanks and have a better 2017!

It is fairly easy to replace the battery. All you need is a screwdriver.

Ok, that makes it much better - I had the impression that the battery is soldered or fixed in a more anti-hackable way, but just a few srews are ok! Hopefully they keep that design!

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by sigil » Sat, Dec 31, 2016, 6:37 PM UTC

vbernat wrote: post #429

sigil wrote: post #309

My Thinkpad X1 Carbon 2nd gen is still going strong 3 years later, but this 5th gen is pretty tempting. Main questions: - Are these "up to 15.5 hours of battery life" numbers purely theoretical? Even brand new, my 2nd gen only got about 6 hours of normal usage. I run Ubuntu so maybe these power saving tweaks are the result of closer hardware integration with Windows? - The mobile broadband option (Qualcomm Snapdragon…

I can't say anything about this specific Qualcomm, but I have used Qualcomm Gobi 2000 and Sierra EM7345 in previous generations of Thinkpad. They both work fine with Linux but their firmwares were buggy as hell. You have to upgrade them as soon as possible. All the problems I ever had were finally solved by upgrading those firmwares. This usually mean you need to keep Windows for that.

Good to know, thanks!

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by grzm » Sat, Dec 31, 2016, 6:41 PM UTC

LinuxFreedom wrote: post #490

grzm wrote: post #455

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Interesting. I hadn't heard of this before. Can you share some references about this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsolescence

Oh. I thought there was something particular about removable batteries. It wasn't clear to me at all that planned obsolescence is what you were referring to.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by tvon » Sat, Dec 31, 2016, 6:47 PM UTC

amiga-workbench wrote: post #391

tvon wrote: post #364

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> (...) most developers setting up vagrant on their Mac just to get a working environment. What kind of working environment requires setting up Vagrant on OSX? It's a Unix-based OS, if you're doing any web development you can do it on the host system.

You generally develop on the platform that your software will end up running on, and nobody in their right mind uses OSX on a server.

If you are trying to match your production platform then you will use a VM of some sort in Linux anyway. If you are not trying to match your production platform then you can develop just fine on OSX.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by likeclockwork » Sat, Dec 31, 2016, 6:50 PM UTC

jclardy wrote: post #321

amiga-workbench wrote: post #160

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I don't understand it either, the thing that always gets me is most developers setting up vagrant on their Mac just to get a working environment. Cut the bullshit and just run Linux on the bare metal, your program will run faster, and your laptop battery life won't be halved. You will have to claw my x201 out of my cold dead hands, I've not found a single notebook (even the newer ThinkPads) that are as comfortable to…

Yeah, I wouldn't want a crummy windows trackpad taking up space either ;) also all Apple laptops are 16:10, other than the 11" MacBook Air.

What's a Windows trackpad?

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by jolux » Sat, Dec 31, 2016, 6:54 PM UTC

svennek wrote: post #397

jolux wrote: post #337

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People say this, and I really really want to like the ThinkPads and in particular the X1 Carbon because it's black and badass but it can't possibly be made out of carbon fiber for how flimsy it feels. Granted perhaps it's more durable than it seems but MacBooks are so solid and dense and rigid by comparison. One of my friends has dropped his Air out of his lofted dorm bed numerous times and you couldn't even tell by…

I did the yoga thing with a Macbook Air and it's hinges was fucked instantly :) My X1 yoga has no trouble what-so-ever and I dropped it a few feet.. (and it rattles along unprotected in a leather bag every day)...

Well the MacBook Air is pretty obviously not designed to do that. The ThinkPad hinges are different on either side, and they came out of alignment and then jammed and broke.

You may have dropped it a few feet, but I drop my MacBook Pro all the time because I'm a terrible person. This dorm-bed fall has happened several times now too. The durability is simply off the charts, and I can't say the same about ThinkPads. They just feel so flimsy, everything bends or flexes on them.