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Re: "Open Source is awful in many ways, and people should be aware of this"

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I wasn't aware FOSS projects were compelled to accept code contributions...

The point is that this situation wouldn't exist in a workplace. So talking about what conduct is tolerated there... doesn't really apply.

Okay, fine, remove workplace if you want to quibble about semantics and broaden it to "Most human interactions". Most human interactions consider a modicum of respect for the other party to be a basic requirement.

Re: "Open Source is awful in many ways, and people should be aware of this"

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The thing that is awful about "Open Source" is that it was a term coined by Eric S Raymond in order to attack Richard Stallman and the Free Software Foundation, and to make a name and money for himself as a so-called "hacker", without actually having to write any useful code, or even read anybody else's code and report bugs with his very own "millions of I's". If you want to see how the Open Source fish rots from the…

Don't forget HIV denial:

"I believe, but cannot prove, that global “AIDS” is a whole cluster of unrelated diseases all of which have been swept under a single rug for essentially political reasons, and that the identification of HIV as the sole pathogen is likely to go down as one of the most colossal blunders in the history of medicine."

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=184

Re: "Open Source is awful in many ways, and people should be aware of this"

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post #199

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When the message is a threat of violence or hitmen, it should be taken serious regardless of the targeted person gender. It is very important to not trivialize harassment directed at men because they are male and not female. That is part of the very gender stereotype that it is the cause of the statistics your referenced, and reinforcing that behavior will only make things worse.

No, that's stupid, because the cost of taking it seriously is far far greater than the estimated badness of any of those threats. Reasoning like that is why we have the TSA.

You misunderstood; belorn meant “it should be taken [equally] serious regardless of the targeted person[’s] gender”.

Re: "Open Source is awful in many ways, and people should be aware of this"

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>1 byte reads with sys-calls is a beginner mistake. Kay was/is not a beginner. He also had at that point had repeated complaints from Linus about the quality of his code, and showed no sign of listening. This conflict eventually culminated in Linus making it clear he'd had enough, and will no longer merge code from Kay until he cleans up his act Then this is all Linus had to say. This, exactly, is a great sentence on…

Yeah, me too. We're paid for the lip service - that's our incentive. Linus has no incentive, financial or social, to be nice to Kay. Chewing him out, however, probably lowers his blood pressure and saves him the time of refactoring his immediate emotional reaction into a polite response, both of which are probably critical metrics to him.

I hope Linus is not that emotionally stunted.

Re: "Open Source is awful in many ways, and people should be aware of this"

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Yeah, me too. We're paid for the lip service - that's our incentive. Linus has no incentive, financial or social, to be nice to Kay. Chewing him out, however, probably lowers his blood pressure and saves him the time of refactoring his immediate emotional reaction into a polite response, both of which are probably critical metrics to him.

I hope Linus is not that emotionally stunted.

If he were emotionally stunted, he would have difficulty expressing his emotions. Evidently, he does not have that problem.

Re: "Open Source is awful in many ways, and people should be aware of this"

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There are certainly evil outcomes when potential contributors actively avoid the Linux kernel and/or other open source projects because the culture can be so hostile. It's a double loss. It makes the code weaker and less innovative, and it makes the culture seem unappealing to outsiders. You might not think that's significant. But how can you know what you're missing by not being more exclusive? Consider: open source…

I think you meant to say "more inclusive". I don't see any evidence of a huge number of people, that could otherwise contribute anything meaningful, avoiding Linux kernel because it's "hostile". They avoid it because they simply don't have anything meaningful to contribute, or are not able to contribute with the level of quality required in Linux kernel, or they are unable to handle the inevitable criticism. Also, I'…

http://staefcraeft.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/linus-torvalds-the...

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/linus-...

http://www.attendly.com/linux-founder-linus-torvalds-deliver...

(And that was where I got bored.)

Re: "Open Source is awful in many ways, and people should be aware of this"

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post #412

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I would love to hear some details. When I've see PHK get vicious he's always been right. He's been in this game years longer than most and perhaps he's tired of defending the right way nicely.

I wasn't exactly polite when he attacked me. I responded in turn because it was absurd and silly to me to be threatened. To know anything about me is to know that threatening me is a joke; I'm not afraid. To this day I'm unclear why he didn't understand the problem with ESI include files being invalidated not forcing the main including file out of the cache as well. ( in Varnish ) I think he was just in a bad mood an…

Couldn't you accomplish this with a vmod?
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