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Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Serious answer: Bootstrap. That framework did more damage to web design than any other framework. Yeah, its nice that you can spin up a page in a second that looks like every other page on the internet, wait a minute... Technical answer: CSS It was a nice idea, and it sure beat hand-designing each and every page (wait a second, weren't/aren't we doing that all over again?). It did/does too much, and was mostly in lie…

I was hanging around during the bootstrap era. It was fine, no i think theres some blend of where UI/UX/marketing that were way overblown that really blitzed all sites into looking the same. Every component framework or helper framework under the sun is barely doing anything different. Shadcn, daisyui, tailwind, all of that.. it's all customizable but people aren't interested in making something fresh and new using bootstrap/daisyui/shadcn/whatever, the components aren't the problem. Anyone could if they took the time and effort put together something pretty unique using any of these, but they don't. Outta the box yeah they are particularly bland (flat buttons and rounded everything literally sucks I'm so tired of it), but it's _what_ the page is and how it's arranged that is reeking with sameness / pointlessness / enshittification. And that abomination is... landing pages. These pages are fkn awful. Career UX/UI folks will defend them, and this just feels like they smoked too much of their own shenanigans.

Every SaaS under the sun, hell half the things here that end up with some sort of VC backing... the first thing they do is spin up a nothingburger landing page that says a whole lot of jack diddly squat that all have a familiar feel where everything's centered, there's meaningless bulletpoints and info cards, but no real meat or information that describes what you're after... that feeling = "how do i beat gd level 1 (this landing page) so i can find what im looking for" and yeah. This has bled into documentation spaces as well, somehow rendering documentation (the thing that is supposed to help you get oriented) feel like you can't actually find what you're looking for.

UX/UI in the past decade was blown way out of proportion and I can't help but feel like it's been shaped by way too many imperfect half theories / stupid market research and is way too heavily influenced by marketing and adspace to be taken seriously. In general there is certainly a taste for what makes a good UX and that to me is typically a blend of utility and looks-cool. But without any utility everything feels like a goddamn waste of time & I'm mostly assured that websites that sport pages like this have way too many financial strings attached driving their every move. They all try to drive you towards filling out a sales inquiry form. It's ironic and hilarious that a lot of times if I want to learn about some platform or product, the last place I can reliably go to is their own website. These days you just gotta go digging, ask claude to go collect a bunch of user feedback from around the net or something.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Ah yes, I shall use that other auction site. Which was it again?

Make your own. You could even scrape auctions from eBay. You might think it's impossible but every other country seems to have a homegrown one, and not many people habitually go to eBay.

Many per-country ‘competitors’ are actually owned by eBay.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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I have Firefox setup to not launch apps on android with permission. I don't have Instagram/Facebook/etc installed. Attempting to view a Instagram link on mobile is the most hostile thing in existence. You essentially can't, but it so aggressively routes you to the website based Google play store it's horrifying.

Whichever devs implemented the Instagram behaviour ought to have their computer taken off them. 100% the worst experience. “Oh you don’t have the app? No big deal, let’s (maybe) play the video anyway but remove the audio, obscure half the screen, and make any interaction redirect and then bounce to the App Store. Why won’t you download our app already????”

I figure if they can't make a functioning website, the odds they can make an app are basically zero.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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No one is tanking UX to stick it to the EU. It would be better for them to simply not piss off their users. They are covering their ass. The obvious conclusion is that when you try to regulate something like this you arent going to get the behavior you want.

Why don't they just not comply with the law then? HN doesn't, and gets away with it just fine.

HN does comply with the law, theres no tracking cookies set.

The only cookie is a functional one.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Can you please tell me what part of this law requires any sort of notification or toggle whatsoever for remembering your dark mode setting: https://gdpr-info.eu/art-6-gdpr/

You're replying to me, but I'm not the one asserting it. The GDPR law doesn't require it specifically, but the earlier ePrivacy regulation does and it is considered to be the guide for GDPR on this specific issue. Lex Specialis is the term for one regulation being applied within a different one. In any case here is a plain text interpretation from the EU ( https://gdpr.eu/cookies/ ): "Strictly necessary cookies — The…

I thought GDPR replaced ePD. Are you saying it did but specific things like how you should ask for consent carried over?

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Why don't they just not comply with the law then? HN doesn't, and gets away with it just fine.

HN does comply with the law, theres no tracking cookies set. The only cookie is a functional one.

GDPR isn't about cookies. HN egregiously violates other parts of it, like the rights to export and deletion.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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I see a lot of people below arguing that this isn’t the fault of the EU policy but the companies. I think that’s being overly charitable to the policy. While you can be rightly upset with the companies behavior, ultimately policy has to work with the incentives it creates. The policy in its current form allows for meeting requirements with annoying cookie banner opt-outs while keeping the lucrative business of tracki…

Actually the purpose was not to invade our privacy as much, which we do and there is active lobbying (for example by Google) against any better solution: https://noyb.eu/en/eu-member-states-and-google-suddenly-want...

This is so wild. I didn't know Google massively lobbied to keep the cookie banner. Thanks for the link.
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