Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but the war on anonymity was first (just) passed in the US at a state level as porn laws before it passed in the UK. Are we pretending that the porn id laws weren't a first attempt at getting forums like Reddit that might "accidentally" have naked pictures liable and therefore profile everyone? Because this is leaning on blaming to UK for everything the US is doing to itself an awful lot…
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Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America
#482Here is a 2-minute tutorial video on how to turn on parental controls on an iPhone. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tv6vxRBEa2o Instead of asking parents to do this, you get these laws where you need to show your id to unlock your own device. Clearly.
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#483Earlier quoted context omitted.
Always makes me chuckle when brits believe their law enforcement is anywhere near as toxic and corrupt as america’s.
I think getting arrested over online posts, buying a baseball bat or butter knife while they refuse medical aid to a victim that is bleeding out because the foreign attacker with the open carry bloody ritual knife called them racist, could be called "toxic". Not even mentioning there part in covering up grooming gangs on national level for being political inconvenient.
Online posts for _what_ though?
> buying a baseball bat or butter knife
Those are weapons, so long as you have a legitimate use for them, jobs a goodun. But more importanly anything in common law is a weapon. Same for the USA. but the difference is, most of the time you're shot, rather than beaten with a stick.
> refuse medical aid to a victim that is bleeding out because the foreign attacker with the open carry bloody ritual knife called them racist
Ah so you didn't actually look at the case then. The victim was foreign, not the attacker (Harry was polish, not english). Also when two people come to you saying that "that man over there attacked me" and have a whole crowd of people saying the same thing, you arrest the person. Now, if you look at the timeline as soon as the police realise he's been stabbed, they give first aid. Of all the cases to bring up, thats kinda the weakest. tragic, but not a signal of systemic failure. especially considering the number of deaths caused by cops in the USA. and that cops have qualified immunity, unlike in the UK.
NOW! the grooming gangs are interesting, and point to Manchester police being corrupt little shits that they are. The problem is we only hear about the brown gangs. Not the other ones. at the time there used to be a whole string of nonces that would drive thier nackered ford escorts up to the school gates to pick up some 14 year olds. The working class girls would go missing, or suddenly get into drugs. It would be their fault. If you want the actual data, the Jay, Berelowitz and ann coffey reports all lay out the failings there.
Now I'm less worried about the grooming gangs as I am about the general lack of empathy for the working class victims. The warped lens of "oh it was the $racial_group" that "did" it misses the main point is that girls were industrially exploited, and have been repeatedly ignored as they are "shouty little brats". Regardless of the abuser.
Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America
#484The right people to protect children are those responsible for them - their parents and guardians. If there is a problem with children not being sufficiently protected, that is the level at which to solve it. Give families tools and information to do so.
No ID checks at clubs, bars, or other adults-only venues. No school zone speed limits, or protected crossings on streets near schools. No requirements for railings on public balconies, fencing around public pools, protective covers over drains or other holes in the ground. Parents/guardians can just supervise. Sounds great!
>No requirements for railings on public balconies, fencing around public pools, protective covers over drains or other holes in the ground.
>Parents/guardians can just supervise.
>Sounds great!
I know you're commenting in bad faith, but at the margin essentially nothing would change except the amount of whining from people of your bent when someone doesn't get punished enough.
The primary determinant of whether society engages in all those activities is not the government but the level of wealth to pay for it all.
Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America
#485Earlier quoted context omitted.
You know, I really wanted to say in my original comment I guarantee someone will bring up grooming gangs - and sure enough. Now imagine grooming gangs, in addition to police shooting and killing civilians, on top of political corruption going unchecked, police stalking, in addition to every other terrible thing you could imagine. The UK isn’t perfect, but the never ending sentiment that it’s the worst in the world be…
>in addition to police shooting and killing civilians If you look at actual statistics you know why it keeps happening. The chance to be shot if you don't act or live like them is miniscule. >You’re not afraid to walk to your local for a pint and be shot in the head by a cop I suppose, right? No "just" scared to open my mouth or defend myself or family with the little to none legal weaponary left that still exists fr…
Bitch please. Firstly the _victim_ was foreign not the attacker.
second, you are well within your rights to use reasonable force. Sometimes that involves chasing an attacker down the street with a cricket bat and beating the shit out of someone.
> foreign attackers imported against our will which are excluded from such laws.
mate, thats not way to talk about the scottish (they too are allowed to carry knives as part of thier national costume) but if you lived here, you'd probably know that.
Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America
#486It was never about the children, but as long as people discuss as if it were, they have won.
Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America
#487Here's my idea how "safe mode" might be implemented without selfie, passport and without every app or website owner having to spend money on compliance. The mobile and desktop OS should have a checkbox "child mode" in the onboarding stage. Switching device to "child mode" allows only installing white-listed apps from the government list and opening white-listed websites from the government list. Parents may edit the…
Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America
#488Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but the war on anonymity was first (just) passed in the US at a state level as porn laws before it passed in the UK. Are we pretending that the porn id laws weren't a first attempt at getting forums like Reddit that might "accidentally" have naked pictures liable and therefore profile everyone? Because this is leaning on blaming to UK for everything the US is doing to itself an awful lot…
Hasn't the UK had a culture of surveillance (the famous CCTV cameras) and arresting people over online wrongthink for quite some time though? Who inspired who?
Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America
#489Here is a 2-minute tutorial video on how to turn on parental controls on an iPhone. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tv6vxRBEa2o Instead of asking parents to do this, you get these laws where you need to show your id to unlock your own device. Clearly.
Your video actually has the opposite effect: it shows that there are no (easy) ways for parents to protect the children and government regulation is necessary.
The UI should be a single checkbox named "child mode" and small, gray link "configure" that opens the menu from the video. The parent just clicks the checkbox, and sets up a password, a fingerprint or paired device to unlock the mode. That's all. After this only government-approved apps and websites can be opened (parent may edit the white list if they are ok with navigating through a maze of ten thousand menus) and children are perfectly safe. Government may white-list only apps and sites that implement measures for content safety and may not add non-compliant apps.
Also I hate watching vertical videos on a laptop.
Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America
#490The fact that the vast majority of comments here are engaging with these campaigns policies on the level of 'protecting the children', is proof enough that the propaganda effort has worked beautifully. It was never about the children, but as long as people discuss as if it were, they have won.