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US inflation jumps to 3.8% as energy costs surge from Iran war

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Re: US inflation jumps to 3.8% as energy costs surge from Iran war

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Post by ajross »

jvanderbot wrote: post #480
ajross wrote: post #479

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You're ignoring Iran's negative effects on the world, and their increasing harassing of shipping, and their support of Russian wars and terrorist actions throughout the middle east (at least). Literally none of which have been addressed by this ridiculous adventure! In fact that "harassing of shipping" has been amplified immensely, with no apparent recourse on our part except to just surrender and bribe them to ope…

> Why did you punch the bully > He was being a bully > But he's still alive!!

The instinct to treat geopolitics like a schoolyard fight is exactly why we're in this mess[1]!

To extend your more-apt-than-you-really-want metaphor: you punched the bully like a moron instead of involving the administration, now you have detention, you'll miss your championship game, you won't get the scholarship you want, you'll have to adjust your college plans, and the rest of your career is impacted.

You shouldn't have punched the bully. "I was only pursuing a principled stand against bullies" doesn't change that fact. You can be principled and not a moron.

[1] To repeat for the third time, because you keep ignoring the point and I suspect it's because of the cognitive dissonance required in this subthread: We Lost The War. Iran Won. They Get Paid. We Get Nothing.

Re: US inflation jumps to 3.8% as energy costs surge from Iran war

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Post by za3faran »

Sabinus wrote: post #478
za3faran wrote: post #460

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Israel has been committing war crime after war crime as far back since it started: https://www.reddit.com/r/israelexposed/

What's your point? Iran can't credibly threaten to nuke Israel over war crimes.

Let's be realistic, they're not going to nuke them. It's much more likely for israel to use nukes (read about the Samson option).

Re: US inflation jumps to 3.8% as energy costs surge from Iran war

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Post by lovich »

caminante wrote: post #477
lovich wrote: post #475

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Alright I guess this is a preexisting term but it seems as poorly named as the academic definition of racism when it comes to using existing English words in highly specific contexts. Recursing back up to the original level then I’d say who cares if demand for oil specifically goes down? We still get energy from renewables and there will still be an oil industry working at a reduced capacity for the products that are…

> I’d say who cares if demand for oil specifically goes down? "How" it happens is the nuance. The point above was that people would get priced out (not by choice), lowering (read: destroying) demand. They experience lower quality of life, can't afford fertilizer for crops, lack capital to build reliable renewables, lose jobs, etc.

I've learned enough from this thread to give me pause and the impetus for research, for anyone finding this thread later, I am not as confident in my original reply as I was after this thread.

Re: US inflation jumps to 3.8% as energy costs surge from Iran war

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Post by newaccountman2 »

kxkdkdisoskdnen wrote: post #71
newaccountman2 wrote: post #40

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There was literally no evidence voting for Trump would have reasonably led to less wars, and enough evidence, in fact, to the contrary.

aside from the first term? guy lost his marbles after 2020 but there were no new wars in the first term and that was evidence. turns out he has different handlers this time. and dementia. but there were 4 years with no new wars. I liked that.

There weren't any "new wars" during Obama's and Biden's terms either, and Trump was clearly for years before he ran in 2016.

Ukraine is something Russia started and the cost to the US is DoD dollars and military hardware.

Iran is something the US and Israel started. It has led to casualties among American soldiers, civilians in Gulf countries, as well as economic cost that is falling on all of us.

Re: US inflation jumps to 3.8% as energy costs surge from Iran war

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Post by newaccountman2 »

parineum wrote: post #252
newaccountman2 wrote: post #40

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There was literally no evidence voting for Trump would have reasonably led to less wars, and enough evidence, in fact, to the contrary.

There is a long history of evidence that voting for establishment candidates leads to more wars and Trump didn't start any new wars in his first term and reduced troop deployments in places where existing conflicts were active so I'm not sure what you mean by no evidence. Supporters were happy about that aspect of his first term. But, like I said, desperate people make desperate choices. If you're a person who feels…

The level of moral fatuousness and practical nonsense your post involves is appalling and hard to unpack.

> There is a long history of evidence that voting for establishment candidates leads to more wars

Literally just the US invasion of Afghanistan and the Iraq War. There were no "new wars" during the Obama Administration or the Biden Administration. You'd have to stretch the meaning of the word "war" rather far to argue otherwise. This Iran war is a totally unnecessary actual war that has claimed the lives of American soldiers, as well as others.

If someone votes for an openly bellicose, jingoistic, bigoted wanna be "strongman" dictator, they aren't voting for less war. How stupid.

Re: US inflation jumps to 3.8% as energy costs surge from Iran war

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Post by tehjoker »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #371
tehjoker wrote: post #84

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i dont understand why the hardliners are bad they were right. the war waged against them was threatened to be nuclear "an entire civilization will die tonight". the country threatening iran unjustly is indeed the great satan. no justification except for being egged on by our hyper aggressive expansionist apartheid proxy israel. we should pay reparations.

The Islamic Republic of Iran has boasted that they 'ended Persian culture/civilization'.

They have not and Iranians are very proud of their thousands years old civilization. However, nuclear genocide would greatly limit it.
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