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Re: Gmail registration now requires scanning a QR code and sending a text message

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xboxnolifes wrote: post #381
traviswingo wrote: post #48

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I can’t prove it, but it feels like the world recently decided that spamming/scamming is acceptable, so the number of spammers/scammers has increased dramatically. The number of spam calls, texts, emails, iCloud account unlock requests, etc I’ve received in the last year is insane.

Every single day since around the start of the year I get at least 1 text with the content of roughly: "FROM TRUMP: You could be the next winner of this PRIZE/MONEY!", "Click here to receive your $10,000 tariff refund!", "DEMOCRATS are trying to DESTROY EVERYTHING!". Plus I get almost daily calls that immediately hang up, and leave a 30 second voicemail with no audio. I've always had some level of political spam, usu…

The first two don't sound like political spam, just politically-themed regular scams.

Re: Gmail registration now requires scanning a QR code and sending a text message

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Post by account42 »

xnx wrote: post #309
traviswingo wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can’t prove it, but it feels like the world recently decided that spamming/scamming is acceptable, so the number of spammers/scammers has increased dramatically. The number of spam calls, texts, emails, iCloud account unlock requests, etc I’ve received in the last year is insane.

> I can’t prove it, but it feels like the world recently decided that spamming/scamming is acceptable In the US, we elected a well-known scammer ... twice!

You mean 60 times? It's not like you get on the ballot by being an honest person.

Re: Gmail registration now requires scanning a QR code and sending a text message

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Post by account42 »

Ajakks wrote: post #158
traviswingo wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can’t prove it, but it feels like the world recently decided that spamming/scamming is acceptable, so the number of spammers/scammers has increased dramatically. The number of spam calls, texts, emails, iCloud account unlock requests, etc I’ve received in the last year is insane.

Oh no - you can definitely 100% prove it, this is the direct consequence, the exact intended consequences, of Trump gutting consumer protections - across the board, not only online but with food and laws about not dumping chemicals in rivers. The man is the absolute worse person - unless your a rich guy, who wants to make more money by screwing over people who mostly don't even know it. Anyone who reads this, I dare…

Curb your TDS, this trend has been going on much longer than the bad orange man.

Re: Gmail registration now requires scanning a QR code and sending a text message

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Post by account42 »

Aboutplants wrote: post #56
dvh wrote: post #4

Any Gmail person can tell me why Gmail is tolerating Gmail phishing emails that use Google's own services (e.g. https://storage.googleapis.com/savelinge/ ... ? More info here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46665414

It follows the same logic as physical junk mail. We accept the fact that we will receive junk mailers in our physical mailbox and just toss them out.

Who is we? We definitely don't accept that where I live.

Re: Gmail registration now requires scanning a QR code and sending a text message

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Post by account42 »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #102
Aboutplants wrote: post #56

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It follows the same logic as physical junk mail. We accept the fact that we will receive junk mailers in our physical mailbox and just toss them out.

We shouldn't accept that either. The USPS could stop accepting junk mail, if it were funded properly and didn't have to rely on junk mail for revenue.

The USPS doesn't even have to get involved. Just make it so that recipients can be compensated easily enough with high enough fines and the spam stops immediately.

Re: Gmail registration now requires scanning a QR code and sending a text message

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Post by account42 »

dotancohen wrote: post #171
Griffinsauce wrote: post #163

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In the Netherlands you put a sticker on your mail box with either of these: - NO ads, NO magazines/papers - NO ads, YES magazines/papers Some municipalities even make it opt-in so you'd need YES/YES to get mail without a name and address on it. (ie. not direct mail) There are also laws to enable opting out of direct mail (with name and address). In effect, junk mail is just gone once you slap a sticker on your mailbo…

What jurisdiction is responsible for regulating my, Israeli, email "sticker compliance" when using Gmail, American, and the sender is in Romania?

What jurisdiction is responsible for when those Romanians decide to send you anthrax in physical letters?

Re: Gmail registration now requires scanning a QR code and sending a text message

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Post by watwut »

Night_Thastus wrote: post #177

People complain a lot about Gmail, but honestly I kind of understand Google's plight here. They've essentially gotten roped into maintaining a huge chunk of internet infrastructure, for free . If they ever shut it down the whole world would end up rioting because it's so widely used. But it's expensive, complicated and time-consuming to maintain - and both a source of and recipient of endless waves of spam and scams.…

> They've essentially gotten roped into maintaining a huge chunk of internet infrastructure, for free. If they ever shut it down the whole world would end up rioting because it's so widely used.

Google did it intentionally and pushed to make it happen. It killed whole lot of businesses who were selling email hosting in the process.

Re: Gmail registration now requires scanning a QR code and sending a text message

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Post by negura »

kstrauser wrote: post #422
negura wrote: post #378

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most major platforms reject email addresses that are not from major providers. for example creating a deepseek account asks to use a "global provider" and gives GMail as an example. github recently rejected @proton.me. discord does this as well etc

I’ve never, ever, not once, been blocked from registering because I was using a self-hosted domain. I’ve seen plenty of services that block anonymizers, typically with the explanation that they were getting too much spam from there.

your claim wasn't that Gmail != anonymizers. your claim was that Gmail != email

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Post by JoshTriplett »

account42 wrote: post #485
JoshTriplett wrote: post #102

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We shouldn't accept that either. The USPS could stop accepting junk mail, if it were funded properly and didn't have to rely on junk mail for revenue.

The USPS doesn't even have to get involved. Just make it so that recipients can be compensated easily enough with high enough fines and the spam stops immediately.

The USPS literally has a paid service to deliver bulk mail to every address in an area.

Re: Gmail registration now requires scanning a QR code and sending a text message

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Post by account42 »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #489
account42 wrote: post #485

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The USPS doesn't even have to get involved. Just make it so that recipients can be compensated easily enough with high enough fines and the spam stops immediately.

The USPS literally has a paid service to deliver bulk mail to every address in an area.

And if the law was working correctly that would mean free money for the whole area and a bankrupt sender.
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