I think it's possible to run the Play Services in an emulator, faking the device type. Google doesn't seem to use the platform attestation for now.
Really that seem almost too easy ?
Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users
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Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users
#482Sites that use reCAPTCHA/Turnstile/etc. have already been broken for me for years now due to neverending captcha/refresh loops. My ISP regularly changes everyone's IP, and I apparently share an ISP with people who suck, so I get flagged just trying to do all sorts of normal things. Some examples: - I've never bought anything from Etsy but I'm somehow banned from even viewing their site at all. - Discord immediately b…
It's not only IP but entire browser stack is being fingerprinted: Javascript, http, tls - everything. I've been living in the SEA region on Linux firefox for the last 10 years and the web has been miserable due to cloudflare and recaptcha
Yep I often have to launch a clean/ephemeral chromium profile just to access a specific website, but even then it's sometimes not enough.
Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users
#483I would love to see someone challenge this as an anti-trust violation. Google is using its market power (as the provider of reCAPTCHA) to actively prevent devices that don’t use Google Play Services from competing effectively.
I'm not sure the definition of anti-trust matches what you're saying. Are there any retail android devices for sale without Google Play Services? Also, notably iPhones will be able to still work despite not having Google Play Services.
They're using their position to force people to buy a certified Android phone or iPhone in order to use millions of websites Google doesn't even own. People without a phone, people with dumb phones and alternative operating systems (deGoogled Android being just one example) can be totally cut off.
Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users
#484that reinforces me using HarmonyOS - nothing against Graphene btw -. It's impressive how difficult is to actually use any platform apart from the stablished ones normally these days.
Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users
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There are massive exemptions for the prevention and detection of crime And https://gdpr.eu/recital-49-network-and-information-security-... : > Recital 49 - Network and Information Security as Overriding Legitimate Interest > The processing of personal data to the extent strictly necessary and proportionate for the purposes of ensuring network and information security, i.e. the ability of a network or an information s…
What crime are you preventing or detecting by verifying you're human?
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Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users
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They would be a solution if almost all parents used them, but parents don't want to socially isolate their kids since a lot of "social" activity is now on social media. It's kind of a prisoner's dilemma. There's not necessarily wrong. Despite the vapid and damaging nature of most popular online media, isolating a child from it might have even worse social consequences when their real-life peer groups discover that th…
> They would be a solution if almost all parents used them No, they are a solution for parents who want to use them, and that's all they should be. Their existence demonstrates that it's possible to handle this without regulation, other than the desire of some people to inflict their preferences onto other people's kids.
You haven't tried to use parental controls much have you? They are all terrible. They are insanely difficult to get set up properly and even when you do there are a lot of tradeoffs that come with it.
Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users
#487I would love to see someone challenge this as an anti-trust violation. Google is using its market power (as the provider of reCAPTCHA) to actively prevent devices that don’t use Google Play Services from competing effectively.
I'm not sure the definition of anti-trust matches what you're saying. Are there any retail android devices for sale without Google Play Services? Also, notably iPhones will be able to still work despite not having Google Play Services.
Retail phones for sale without Google Play Services:
All Huawei phones, which uses Huawei AppGallery after sanctions
FairPhone 6 /e/OS
Practically all modern feature phones: Nokia phones, HMD phones, etc. As I understand it, predominantly used by elderly and kids. But it's also gaining traction among millennials and Gen Z for digital detox and defeating mobile addiction.
Linux phones (Jolla Phone, PinePhone, FuriPhone, etc) - these you probably won't find in your local retail store but this is another competing platform being built from effectively an entirely different lineage minus the kernel
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Stop visiting sites and using services that use reCAPTCHA. Problem solved.
With the new reCAPTCHA this is going to happen because most human visitors will actually be unable to pass the CAPTCHA. It will be interesting to see whether this makes websites ditch reCAPTCHA or whether they literally just don't care about having customers, an attitude that seems to be getting more and more common every day.
> most human visitors will actually be unable to pass the CAPTCHA
Most human visitors will pull out their smartphone and just do it without giving it much thought.
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> I'm not going to give up reading the test results from my doctor You could just call them.
Fairly sure that would be considered a breach of patient confidentiality where I live, at least.
You should check your patient portal closely, they may be violating your confidentiality in ways that are much worse: https://vanguardcommunications.net/facebook-ads-pixel/
Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users
#490I did something unpopular and just didn't have a captcha, I just read up on creepjs etc and rolled out my own which is just browser state analysis, basic ip check (abuse lists only) and PoW. Haven't had an issue with a single bot registration (yet).
Cool! I would like to hear more about this, and understand how to do the same.