Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

UAE to leave OPEC

ft.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

481–490 of 750 posts

Re: UAE to leave OPEC

#481

Post by oa335 »

rafale wrote: post #462
fakedang wrote: post #408

Earlier quoted context omitted.

STC was defeated after a Saudi bombing campaign, and their independent nation quashed. While there might be holdouts here and there, they are a non-entity now.

Quite impressive how they folded. UAE bluff was called spectacularly and I think that, in the future, looking back, that event might mark the beginning of the end of their geopolitical ambitions.

> that event might mark the beginning of the end of their geopolitical ambitions.

i hope so, they have been one of the biggest sources of discord in the Middle East, funding civil wars in Libya, Sudan, Yemen, funding a coup in Egypt.

Re: UAE to leave OPEC

#482

Post by huntertwo »

shykes wrote: post #470
j_maffe wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Egyptians and Israelis hate each other, not their governments. They're on friendly terms relatively speaking.

Israelis do not hate Egyptians... The Arab world has a major Jew-hatred problem, but the reverse it not true. Remember that 20% of the Israeli population is Arab.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_to_Arabs

> Death to Arabs" or "Death to the Arabs" (Israeli Hebrew: מָוֶת לָעֲרָבִים, romanized: Mávet la'Aravím) is an anti-Arab slogan originating in Israel.

Re: UAE to leave OPEC

#483

Post by huntertwo »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #20

Context: (1) “The United Arab Emirates,” today “made a shock request of [Pakistan] — repay $3.5bn immediately” [1]. (2) Saudi-Emirati relations were at an all-time low before the Iran War [2]. (Saudi Arabia just bailed Pakistan out of its Emirati loan. Saudi Arabia and Pakistan agreed a mutual-defence treaty last year [3].) Put together, we’re seeing an Emirati-Israeli axis emerging to balance Saudi hegemony in the G…

Shouldn’t UAE be upset their entire economy has absolutely rammed by the war started by Israel? At least the Saudis have pipelines - UAE is fucked

Re: UAE to leave OPEC

#484

Post by dataflow »

nakedrobot2 wrote: post #423
Raed667 wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Johnny Harris has a pretty decent video on the topic as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsO-rULEfrk

Johnny Harris is astoundingly wrong about most things, so I'll skip it thanks

Most things? That's a really strong claim, do you have anything to back it up with? Just a couple videos here and there wouldn't cut it, given how strong your claim is.

For what it's worth I watch his videos and he seems to touch on incredibly valuable topics I would never hear about otherwise, like [1].

[1] https://youtu.be/2tuS1LLOcsI?si=b3mS0meBazL0RlcS

Re: UAE to leave OPEC

#485

Post by stogot »

huntertwo wrote: post #483
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #20

Context: (1) “The United Arab Emirates,” today “made a shock request of [Pakistan] — repay $3.5bn immediately” [1]. (2) Saudi-Emirati relations were at an all-time low before the Iran War [2]. (Saudi Arabia just bailed Pakistan out of its Emirati loan. Saudi Arabia and Pakistan agreed a mutual-defence treaty last year [3].) Put together, we’re seeing an Emirati-Israeli axis emerging to balance Saudi hegemony in the G…

Shouldn’t UAE be upset their entire economy has absolutely rammed by the war started by Israel? At least the Saudis have pipelines - UAE is fucked

UAE is the third largest producer in OPEC, and has options to avoid the straight, yet Their economy recently get shocked though by the war they wanted to avoid

Re: UAE to leave OPEC

#486

Post by oa335 »

slibhb wrote: post #456
ifwinterco wrote: post #421

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Various Arab states maintain this balancing act between a virulently anti-Israel population and a US-aligned (in most cases, US-installed) regime that’s tacitly okay with the existence of Israel. It’s actually surprising it’s achievable for so long but in the long term doesn’t feel stable given the direction things are headed

Which Arab regimes, today, are "US installed"? Iraq is the only plausible answer. As far as stability, I don't know. My view is that Arab democracies are unstable because they will elect Islamists. Dictatorship/monarchy has proven far more stable. Syria is trying to buck the trend; we'll see how it goes.

> Arab democracies are unstable because they will elect Islamists.

why does that imply instability?

Re: UAE to leave OPEC

#487

Post by DANmode »

dgb23 wrote: post #273
boringg wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Best of luck! These proxy wars have existed since the days of Assyria. 3000 years and running. Kind of depressing thought actually.

I tried to make sense of middle eastern politics once. My conclusion has been „It’s complicated.“

Yes - but complicated by what.

Re: UAE to leave OPEC

#488

Post by slibhb »

oa335 wrote: post #486
slibhb wrote: post #456

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which Arab regimes, today, are "US installed"? Iraq is the only plausible answer. As far as stability, I don't know. My view is that Arab democracies are unstable because they will elect Islamists. Dictatorship/monarchy has proven far more stable. Syria is trying to buck the trend; we'll see how it goes.

> Arab democracies are unstable because they will elect Islamists. why does that imply instability?

Fundamentalists tend not to be pragmatists.

Re: UAE to leave OPEC

#489

Post by grumple »

huntertwo wrote: post #483
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #20

Context: (1) “The United Arab Emirates,” today “made a shock request of [Pakistan] — repay $3.5bn immediately” [1]. (2) Saudi-Emirati relations were at an all-time low before the Iran War [2]. (Saudi Arabia just bailed Pakistan out of its Emirati loan. Saudi Arabia and Pakistan agreed a mutual-defence treaty last year [3].) Put together, we’re seeing an Emirati-Israeli axis emerging to balance Saudi hegemony in the G…

Shouldn’t UAE be upset their entire economy has absolutely rammed by the war started by Israel? At least the Saudis have pipelines - UAE is fucked

[flagged]

Re: UAE to leave OPEC

#490

Post by rayiner »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #20

Context: (1) “The United Arab Emirates,” today “made a shock request of [Pakistan] — repay $3.5bn immediately” [1]. (2) Saudi-Emirati relations were at an all-time low before the Iran War [2]. (Saudi Arabia just bailed Pakistan out of its Emirati loan. Saudi Arabia and Pakistan agreed a mutual-defence treaty last year [3].) Put together, we’re seeing an Emirati-Israeli axis emerging to balance Saudi hegemony in the G…

Thank you for this analysis! MSM doesn’t seem to be covering this and it’s hard to know what’s going on if you’re not familiar with the region.
Post reply on HN